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JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Defender 90 puma 2.2 gearbox

Hi there can you please tell me if there is any new solutions to gearbox selection from cold as 1st to 2nd slight crunch, the gearbox is perfect when warm, have just changed gearbox oil using genuine Landrover bot 328 at £24.00 a litre from Marshall Landrover, have put 2.2 litres in gearbox, just wondering if anybody has used any different oils and put in extra oil to cure the problem, I have read about the mt82 gearbox problems on the mustang website and they have used additives to help smooth change.

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5th Jan 2018 7:31pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17446

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

If you're having that much difficulty I'd suggest you have a gearbox fault and lubrication is not the answer, since the GFT MT82 box is actually pretty good (except in the 'Stang, of course) and should have a smooth albeit not fast shift.

I can certainly say that mine is much better than any previous Landrover gearbox, especially the awful R380 in the Td5 which has probably the baulkiest and worst cold change performance of any gearbox design I have ever driven.

5th Jan 2018 7:50pm

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Thankyou for your reply, it is ok if I change from 2nd to 3rd slowly when cold and it is perfect when upto temperature.
This is my first puma so I'm new to Landrovers but I love it great for a bit of shooting. Is the genuine gearbox oil the best one to use and is the answer to change slowly from cold.

5th Jan 2018 8:05pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7906

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

There is a gearbox mod adding washes to improve alignment. I think you'll find the thread as a sticky in the Puma section?

I guess out of warranty if not get to checked by dealer?

The nylon ball on bottom on gear stick is known for wearing, worth checking.

Sorry I'm not technically minded, just passing on suggestions to check.

Hope you get it sorted. James
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5th Jan 2018 8:29pm

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Cheers for your reply I will get it checked as it's just done 50,000 m, I have read a lot of threads about the gearbox being notchy changing from 1st to 2nd from cold and just wondered if people used a different oil or put extra in. Nice looking Landrover you've got I've got a 90 hardtop corris grey.

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5th Jan 2018 8:49pm

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

You can easily check if you need the spacer/washer update by looking down the holes that they are meant to fit in to - if they are (still) aligned well then the spacers wont help your issue (although I guess they'll avoid the potential for the issue they're designed to remedy). Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

5th Jan 2018 8:58pm

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Thankyou for your info.

5th Jan 2018 9:02pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3785

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

Never had an issue going from 2nd to 3rd, the only "issue" that I have, is a very slight "snick" going from 1st to 2nd if I change quickly.
Pickles.

5th Jan 2018 9:02pm

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Yeah I get the same into 2nd but perfect when warm

5th Jan 2018 9:05pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17446

Remember it isn't a car and you can't drive it like one! Don't rush the gear change, pause in neutral on the way up, and ideally double de-clutch on the way down.

6th Jan 2018 12:09am

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Thank you everyone for your advice , great forum

6th Jan 2018 8:51am

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6300

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

not sure how long you've had the vehicle / owned one before but I would suggest 1st to 2nd is very much unlike most other modern cars and would suggest if nothing else this does take some getting used ie ensuring there's enough revs and a relatively slow movement from 1st to 2nd - other gears ok. albeit I would suggest the defender much prefers long almost exaggerated movements from one gear to the next ensuring the revs are kept up

6th Jan 2018 12:52pm

JASON B

Member Since: 01 Jan 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 19

Thank you again for advice, not had it long, Drove it today with slower changes and paused in neutral before changing into 2nd, everything was perfect ,like black wolf said it’s not a car, appreciate all your advice

6th Jan 2018 2:03pm

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