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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Since fitting the prop I have had no issues at all with the vehicle.

I have contacted Land Rover and asked them should I replace the original, I'm awaiting their reply. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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SteveS



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England 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Mega Prop Catastrophic Failure
Had a Mega Prop fitted last week as have had a 2" lift.....anyway today whilst doing 70mph the prop suddenly had some sort of failure, and within a fraction of a second had locked itself at the 'knuckle' against the bodywork.

Failure symptoms went like this:

a few seconds before failure a twittering/squeeking sound under acceleration - bit like a quiet fan belt squeal, then quickly severe vibration then the prop was starting to bang against the bodywork, then it hit the bodywork hard and froze there - at which point the front wheels locked fast

So went from 70mph to 0 whilst trying to fight my way across from lane 2 towards the hard-shoulder in bank holiday traffic on the M5 at Exeter this morning. Evenually stopped across lane 1 and 2, cars skidding all around us including a very lucky caravanner who made emergency use of the hard shoulder.

Then we had to drag (literally) the truck onto the hard shoulder.

So no real damage, nobody hurt and live to tell the tale - but it was pretty scarey at the time. Apologies if any of you got caught up in the tailback
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^^Struth - scarey stuff, glad you walked away from it ok. Steve.
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Post #73213 28th May 2011 4:26pm
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Re: Mega Prop Catastrophic Failure
SteveS wrote:
Had a Mega Prop fitted last week as have had a 2" lift.....anyway today whilst doing 70mph the prop suddenly had some sort of failure, and within a fraction of a second had locked itself at the 'knuckle' against the bodywork.

Failure symptoms went like this:

a few seconds before failure a twittering/squeeking sound under acceleration - bit like a quiet fan belt squeal, then quickly severe vibration then the prop was starting to bang against the bodywork, then it hit the bodywork hard and froze there - at which point the front wheels locked fast

So went from 70mph to 0 whilst trying to fight my way across from lane 2 towards the hard-shoulder in bank holiday traffic on the M5 at Exeter this morning. Evenually stopped across lane 1 and 2, cars skidding all around us including a very lucky caravanner who made emergency use of the hard shoulder.

Then we had to drag (literally) the truck onto the hard shoulder.

So no real damage, nobody hurt and live to tell the tale - but it was pretty scarey at the time. Apologies if any of you got caught up in the tailback



Not nice Dude, I had a similar experence whilst driving a fully laden Iveco van doing about 80mph at 3 in the morning in Dijon - my mate was asleep .. but not for long!! scary experience for sure. Luckily for us the motorway was empty but we were in the middle of nowhere in pitch darkness. You were lucky that your UJ failure didnt cause a massive pile up Thumbs Up 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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Post #73246 28th May 2011 9:15pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
You were lucky! You cuould have rolled over or have the prop inside the cabin. Not to mention the destroy of the gearbox case.

NOw, is that the Bailey Morris? Puma 110" SW

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Post #73291 29th May 2011 8:43am
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nakatanenga



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MK: could you please let me know of which Toyota the CV-propshaft is? Part no? That would be grat!

Caution: there are different double knuckle shafts on the market. GKN ones and aftermarket. The aftermarket ones are easy to spot, they have a big hole in the flange. These do not last long.....

But: GKN has moved the factory of the double ones to Poland and lost the mould....or so. That means they are not available at the moment.

We use the larger HD version to have own props made. Greasable UJs all around. Extra strong sliding piece etc. Plus the benefit of an erased weak point. WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k
Post #73294 29th May 2011 9:00am
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
At the moment I do not know the part number. However, it correspnds to any 4x4 Hilux truck with solid front axle. It has a 45º CV (some are 30º) with 80x27mm UJs and about 150 mm sliding joint totally covered. 5 greasing points. I`ll try to find out the P#. Puma 110" SW

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Post #73300 29th May 2011 9:24am
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nakatanenga



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THX!!! WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k
Post #73450 30th May 2011 1:30pm
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Coming up to 70k and no issues, She drives like new Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #144755 13th May 2012 3:57pm
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SGH



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Re: Megga Prop (front)
AndrewS wrote:
Fitted one of these today to J-Lo

90% of the vibration issues have now gone Thumbs Up


I know that the props shown are not sat the same way round Confused


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Andrew

I have a 130 without any suspension mods but have noticed between 50-60 mph I am staring to get vibration through the transmission. I s this a common 130 issue ?

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AndrewS



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Could be as our grey 130 also vibrates at 59 - 62 mph 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #144803 13th May 2012 7:54pm
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AndrewS wrote:
Could be as our grey 130 also vibrates at 59 - 62 mph


Interesting, I had a 2" drop on my 110 and suffered front prop-vibrations, put std springs back on and it was fine.

I have a DC prop on my 90 and it's perfect - but I keep it well greased
Post #144810 13th May 2012 8:34pm
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Re: Mega Prop Catastrophic Failure
SteveS wrote:
Had a Mega Prop fitted last week as have had a 2" lift.....anyway today whilst doing 70mph the prop suddenly had some sort of failure, and within a fraction of a second had locked itself at the 'knuckle' against the bodywork.

Failure symptoms went like this:

a few seconds before failure a twittering/squeeking sound under acceleration - bit like a quiet fan belt squeal, then quickly severe vibration then the prop was starting to bang against the bodywork, then it hit the bodywork hard and froze there - at which point the front wheels locked fast

So went from 70mph to 0 whilst trying to fight my way across from lane 2 towards the hard-shoulder in bank holiday traffic on the M5 at Exeter this morning. Evenually stopped across lane 1 and 2, cars skidding all around us including a very lucky caravanner who made emergency use of the hard shoulder.

Then we had to drag (literally) the truck onto the hard shoulder.

So no real damage, nobody hurt and live to tell the tale - but it was pretty scarey at the time. Apologies if any of you got caught up in the tailback


What was the outcome of this? did you get a new prop and damage repaired FOC? 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #144835 14th May 2012 6:40am
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SteveS



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England 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
yep - new double cardon prop fitted - but not mega-prop one. Only remaining damage are some 'dents' in the gearbox casing which the supplier has offered to replace if I wish. It makes no difference to the gearbox operation and is largely just superficial. The gearbox operation is pretty sweet so I'm reluctant to take a chance in having the gears recased, even if Ashcroft would likely be doing it. Mind you splitting the box down would be an opportunity to fit a new clutch to kill two birds with one stone
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Drover



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AndrewS wrote:
I think its a "Megga" prop from Italy, Got it from devon 4x4 at a cost of about £400


It looks like a dead ringa for a Bailey Morris Extreme D/C shaft.

I fitted one about 12 months ago, no vibration or any other issues since.
Post #145023 15th May 2012 3:34am
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