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Nige71

Member Since: 05 Jun 2017
Location: bristol
Posts: 38

1997 Defender 110 V8 Petrol CSW Nato Green

rear axle - 90 axle on 110?

Hello All

Will a 1985 defender 90 300tdi rear axle fit 1997 110 v8 .

Thanks Nige

7th Jun 2017 6:05am

Mash

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 1674

I assume you have the dates the wrong way round, not sure if a 90 axle has a lower load rateing than the 110. Also I think the 110 has a larger rear springs so you would need to change the spring seat. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............

7th Jun 2017 6:24am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

There's no such thing as a factory 1985 300tdi, so if that's what you've got then the engine is a retrofit. Regardless though, 90 axles of any vintage are not suitable for a 110 as the latter have bigger springs and heavier duty diffs. Darren

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7th Jun 2017 8:03am

Nige71

Member Since: 05 Jun 2017
Location: bristol
Posts: 38

Thanks for the info have not brought the axle yet so will let the bloke know I it won't fit.thanks nige

7th Jun 2017 8:50am

Gilloverland

Member Since: 12 Nov 2017
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 61

I'm going to fit a Discovery rear axle to my early military 110.
- It gets rid of the clunky Salisbury ground anchor
- Its an instant upgrade to disc brakes (but Ill be changing the master cylinder and bias valve)
- Its cheaper and easier to fit a locking / atb diff.

I don't buy into all the 'its not rated' BS, I've had discoveries before, given them some serious punishment and loads and never had any problems with the axle, neither for that fact did the Camel Trophy ones and they're a lot heavier than my 110 will ever be.

I think its more important to sort out the braking differences between Drums and Discs so you don't end up with overly powerful rear brakes!

12th Dec 2017 8:51am

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6092

Might be BS to you... but, if you have an accident/cause on, and the authorities start poking at your truck and realise you've got the "wrong" axle on it, don't come crying here...

12th Dec 2017 6:13pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2166

There was a fella not too long ago that had "wrong axles" on a 110 (cant quite remember but I think they where Disco axles), something gave way on the rear and sent the 110 to the bottom of a lake with him in it.

Afaik 110s have short nose or salisbury diffs fitted, not long nose diffs which 90s have. So the props probably wouldnt fit.

Why not just get the correct axle for your car?

That said it is common to fit D2 front axles to challange trucks and the like

12th Dec 2017 6:50pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

Also, Land Rover didn't develop a stronger axle just for the fun of it

Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

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12th Dec 2017 6:56pm

Justtellme

Member Since: 23 Nov 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 310

bankz5152 wrote:

That said it is common to fit D2 front axles to challange trucks and the like

Is the D2 front axle an upgrade over the normal 110 front axle?...and are they a strait swap?
Patrick

12th Dec 2017 8:26pm

Gilloverland

Member Since: 12 Nov 2017
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 61

bankz5152 wrote:
There was a fella not too long ago that had "wrong axles" on a 110 (cant quite remember but I think they where Disco axles), something gave way on the rear and sent the 110 to the bottom of a lake with him in it.

I'm aware of that case but the issue wasn't the 'axle' it was the brakes. AFAIK it was a RRC disc brake rear axle but the master cylinder and valves etc had been left original which basically biased the brakes to the rear rather than the front causing a loss of control under heavy braking.

Any change from drum brakes to disc on the rear axle (Salisbury / wolf / disco etc) should include the relevant master cylinder.

13th Dec 2017 7:03am

DSC-off

Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1406

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

"Is the D2 front axle an upgrade over the normal 110 front axle? And are they a straight swap?"

Patrick,
No the D2 axle is not a straight swap into a 110.
The D2 used different radius arms, so it would need some specialist fabrication to modify the axle, or make new radius arms to connect it to the chassis.
Also the panhard rod position is different, again needing specialist modification.
D2 axles use a different pattern for the hub bolts, that will mean different wheels, front and rear.

As some wise people have said above, using the correct type axles for the vehicle is the safest and easiest option for a road vehicle.
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13th Dec 2017 7:11pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2166

Gilloverland wrote:
bankz5152 wrote:
There was a fella not too long ago that had "wrong axles" on a 110 (cant quite remember but I think they where Disco axles), something gave way on the rear and sent the 110 to the bottom of a lake with him in it.

I'm aware of that case but the issue wasn't the 'axle' it was the brakes. AFAIK it was a RRC disc brake rear axle but the master cylinder and valves etc had been left original which basically biased the brakes to the rear rather than the front causing a loss of control under heavy braking.

Any change from drum brakes to disc on the rear axle (Salisbury / wolf / disco etc) should include the relevant master cylinder.

Ahh thanks for clearing that up! I couldnt quite remember!

13th Dec 2017 8:19pm

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