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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3750  
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Does this help?
https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showt...g-problems open the pdf in the link it lists your message as this below may turn out all over the place as a cut and paste TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETINNo.LTB00300/2010 08 July 2010 Circulate to: Service Manager Parts Manager Warranty Administrator Service Reception Technicians © Land Rover All rights reserved. Subject/Concern: Non-Start Temperature Gauge In The Red Model: Defender (LD) - 2.4L Puma Diesel Only VIN Range: 7A732615-AA790554 Markets: All except NAS Section: 303-00 Summary A customer may report an intermittent concern that the Starter Motor rotates the engine at normal cranking speed, however the Engine will not start and the Instrument Pack Temperature Gauge needle is in the red segment. During diagnosis a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P068A-00 may be stored in the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). Cause: A small percentage of microprocessors in certain PCM's can lock-up during data storage, after engine shutdown, this leads to a non-start on the following drive cycle. Suggested Customer Concern Code D02. Action: Should a customer express a concern that the engine will crank but not start with the Instrument pack temperature gauge displayed in the red, follow the Service Instruction outlined below. If the vehicle symptoms are that the engine will crank but not start with the Instrument pack temperature gauge reading normal, please view Special Service Message 44410 for further guidance and do not follow the Service Instruction below. Parts Required Description Part Number Quantity Powertrain Control Module NNN501630 1 Labor Time Operation Description Operation No. Time Powertrain Control Module Ignition Renew 18.30.02 0.3 hours Check - PCM - Wiring - Fuse and Relay Inspection 86.71.89.28 0.3 hours Check - Wiring - Fuse and Relay Inspection 86.71.89.29 0.2 hours Check - Wiring - Fuse inspection 86.71.89.30 0.1 hours Read and Clear Fault Codes 12.90.16 0.2 hours Engine Management System Diagnosis Includes Configuration Of New PCM 18.90.04 0.6 hours Repair/Claim Coding Causal Part: NNN501630 ACES Condition Code: 42 Service Instruction 1. Fuse P110 is secured to the harness (see graphic E130807). Check continuity of inline fuse P110 fuse, located under the RH front seat (see graphic E130807). If the fuse has failed, replace as necessary and check related wiring circuit for any signs of a potential cause, paying particular attention to the harness route around the red colored engine lifting eye at rear of engine and the area around the exhaust gas re-circulation valve for signs of abrasion, rectify as necessary. 2. Check the integrity of the under bonnet earth points located Page 1 of 3 http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/document/112700 19/03/2011 on and around the bulkhead. If a fault was identified and repaired, then return the vehicle to the customer, if not continue to next step. 3. Check for correct operation of the main relay located under RH front seat. In addition look for any signs of arcing or loose terminal connections to the relay. If a fault was identified repair as necessary and return the vehicle to the customer. If not continue to next step. 4. An associated fault code U0100 may also be stored in the instrument pack (IPK). As a result of lost communications between the IPK and PCM. Connect SDD to the vehicle and check for any stored fault codes in the PCM. If the code P068A-00 only is present continue to next step. Any additional codes should be diagnosed - rectified before continuing to next step with reference to GTR for any applicable Service Actions or TSBs. If there is evidence that code P068A-00 was stored and subsequently cleared (i.e. by Roadside Assistance) continue to next step, otherwise return the vehicle to the customer. 5. For PCM date code reference see examples below. Remove the engine cover, reference GTR 501-05 interior trim, using a mirror to read the 4/5 digit number on the top right corner of the PCM. Note the batch code reference number and identify the build date of the PCM (see graphic E130664). If the build date is earlier than 14th October 2009, replace the powertrain control module reference GTR 303-00 and continue to step 7. 1. Year 8 =2008/9 =2009/0 =2010. 2. Month C =March/ D =April/ F =June. 3. 044 = Day 44/ 98 =Day 98/304 = Day 304. 6. If the build date is the 14th October 2009 onwards, there is no need to replace the PCM. Refit the engine cover and clear the fault codes and re-assess the vehicle for the concern, if the concern does not re-appear return vehicle to the customer. If the concern re-appears continue with diagnosis with reference to GTR and SDD. 7. Please ensure that you carry out all the ignition on/off requests to ensure correct module configuration, if this is not done it can cause damage to the modules on the vehicle. • IDS must be loaded with I DS-DVD121_V6.09 and Calibration File 38 loaded or later. Connect a Midtronic battery conditioner/power supply to the vehicle. 8. Follow the SDD prompts. 9. Select session type 'Diagnosis' tab. 10. Select 'selected symptoms' tab. 11. Select the Symptoms tab and enter any of the following Symptom (s). 1. Electrical / Instruments / Gauges / Temperature gauge / Display above normal. And/or. Page 2 of 3 http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/document/112700 19/03/2011 2. Powertrain / Engine system / Starting system / Will not start / Cranking speed normal. 12. Select 'Recommendations' tab. 13. Configure new modules 'Powertrain Control Modules' then select run. 14. Follow all on-screen instructions to complete this task. When the task is completed, exit the current session. 15. Disconnect a Midtronic battery conditioner/power supply to the vehicle. |
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29th Mar 2019 3:27pm |
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| johnnyd Member Since: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Chippenham Posts: 1006 
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Hi Stacey
Thanks for that but I think thats the same one as posted earlier, I do not suffer the Max temp gauge issue and that bulletin states ...If the vehicle symptoms are that the engine will crank but not start with the Instrument pack temperature gauge reading normal, please view Special Service Message 44410 for further guidance and do not follow the Service Instruction below. Hence my keeness to read 44410 
Thanks though 
JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW |
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29th Mar 2019 3:34pm |
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