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| 24heuer Member Since: 21 Jul 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 167   
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Rather than hijack someone else's thread I thought I'd pose this....
Where do people think the stolen defenders are actually going? My 110 stolen in May hasn't reappeared and various theories have been suggested from being broken down for parts to shipped complete to somewhere in Africa or Asia. One reoccurring hypothesis is that it's broken down and the thieves sell the parts indirectly via eBay or gumtree - i.e. they sell a legit part but then hook the buyer by saying they also have other parts for sale...that way they don't need to list the stolen parts. Someone else suggested they get put in a container and sent to Nigeria - I asked a Nigerian friend who laughed and said they weren't interested in Defenders there - it's the big Mercs and BMWs that they're after. Anyway, interested to hear people's thoughts on this as the cops didn't seem to have a clue. Cheers, Andy... Edinburgh, Scotland http://24heuer.com |
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9th Aug 2017 1:43pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382  
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I would think that nearly all stolen Defenders are broken for parts, or are rung (or should that be ringed?).
Non-Defender JLR products probably 50:50 broken and exported. |
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9th Aug 2017 2:05pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110  
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Not so much these days but it still does happen.
Stolen for RAM raids. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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9th Aug 2017 2:31pm |
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| 24heuer Member Since: 21 Jul 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 167
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Too many parts to mark I guess but maybe something like datatag data dots might be handy...pretty sure i had something like that on my motorcycle a few years back. Cheers, Andy... Edinburgh, Scotland http://24heuer.com |
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9th Aug 2017 2:38pm |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945
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E BAY
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9th Aug 2017 3:08pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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A new security marking kit for Defenders, a little like Data Tag but cheaper at £35.76 and with the benefit that the kit also includes a window etching kit that Data Tag does not. This marking system works on the principle of UV light. And is backed by The International Security Register which having googled the register seems very comprehensive. I think this kit is good value. http://www.paddockspares.com/security-mark...a37713c7e1 For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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9th Aug 2017 3:16pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
@Ecco - that is the million dollar question and one I'd love to know the answer to.[/quote]
answer to the question you can not buy brand new defender in EU (PARTS ONLY) and thieving  have not trouble ship as not border control |
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9th Aug 2017 3:21pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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The evidence is anecdotal in many cases, but there does look to be a 'breakers mentality' for car thieves which is clearly not limited to just Land Rovers.
Security Etching a Vehicle can be a valuable Security Layer to possibly help deter the 'steal it to break it' market that appears to be the fate for some Defenders. I used the Security Coded System ISR and dealt directly with the Retainagroup to increase the quantity of both the Glass Etching and Panel Marking elements issued against my number. Very helpful service, low cost, and no yearly subscription to maintain the register. Every piece of Glass (there are 13 on my 90, including the Sunroof) and every major exterior and interior Body Panel is now marked.  Click image to enlarge LRO did an article in 2012 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Worth considering... 
http://www.retainagroup.com/motor-industry.html Good Luck SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html Last edited by X4SKP on 10th Aug 2017 2:59pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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9th Aug 2017 4:46pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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I like that idea.
Much better than Data tag or Smart Water as it’s a very visual deterrent Do you know if they still do the home kit? Or if they have franchises elsewhere in the country, Kent is a little too far for me. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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9th Aug 2017 5:35pm |
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| tolley Member Since: 07 Nov 2011 Location: gloucester Posts: 1115 
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coleford Gloucester
 , police found 23 so far and loads of other parts ,even had a shop their selling it . |
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9th Aug 2017 8:24pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1917 
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Ohh must have the etching kit!
 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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9th Aug 2017 9:09pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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Hello gilarion I dealt with the Retainagroup over the phone (Sales No.) they 'tailored' their Vehicle Kit to my requirements (for a minimal extra charge) and it was posted out to me. Small point this also ensured that I got the Retain Group ISR Credit Card for my wallet rather than the Britpart one... if you get this from an alternative source (the Standard Kit is however the same). The Retain Group were also developing a Kit for Caravans, basically the same, but using an alternative etching solution for the windows typically fitted (polycarbonate / acrylic / perspex...(all the same)) I'm about to follow this up...
I was really impressed with the Glass Etching, I expected it to be 'so-so' as this is a DIY kit, I had my windows on a previous Defender 'etched' which was essentially a fine 'bead blasting' technique, so more engraving than etching, (this was very good) but this Chemical etching was super crisp, being careful and keeping everything scrupulously clean gave a very good result. The Labels (Body Panels) are easier to apply (again to a clean surface...I removed all polish, clay bar and used a mild alcohol to get things the best as I could). These Labels, with the application of a UV fluid, etch into the Paint Work over a number of days, with the full effect I think reached in about a week, If removed there is a 'permanent' visible marking left behind, requiring that all Panels and Plastic Parts would need surface refinishing to hide this. You have to apply these Labels carefully...as soon as they touch anything...(anything) you are committed to follow through...they will break up if you attempt to re position them...think twice apply once. I did all my Wheels, all bolt on stuff (KBX front end) Bonnet, all Body Panels, internally Dash Board, Centre Consul, etc. I was aware that I didn't want the vehicle to look like a riot of Labels, and it doesn't but at all the approach / entry points these are in a (hopefully) prominent position...then when these are seen and you 'tune in' to start looking for them...one piece after another is marked up. The deal is, if Stolen you let ISR know (this is possible 24/7). They are not involved actively in searching for or trying to recover your vehicle, but they will, with you involvement, as the registered owner, liaise with you and the Police as required. If the Police come across parts marked up, they can establish the link to the registered owner by contacting the ISR. If you sell the Vehicle, you contact ISR and they will update the details of the new owner onto the ISR Data Base So if this is of interest...add up what you need, and give this a go...you just need to prep' really well, and wait for a dry day to apply... 
Good Luck SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html Last edited by X4SKP on 10th Aug 2017 3:00pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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10th Aug 2017 9:46am |
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| 24heuer Member Since: 21 Jul 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 167
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This looks really good so i just called them up on the number in the LRO article and the price is the same @ £35.25.
Can't complain at that - for 35 quid it has to be worth it 
Should be in the post shortly. Cheers, Andy... Edinburgh, Scotland http://24heuer.com |
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10th Aug 2017 10:15am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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Thank you X4SKP for that information I will give it a go
For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..
http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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10th Aug 2017 12:31pm |
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