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bankz5152



Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
New Damper Suggestions Please
So I've had the TF Big Bore +2 Dampers fitted to my 110 for the past year but in 5k miles one of the fronts has started leaking oil which is just poor. I was prepared to put up with the terrible finish but not a leaking damper. If one has gone this soon then I can't imagine the others will be that far behind.

So looking for new dampers, not entirely certain what to buy this time round all I know is I would like some +2 dampers

As for spec its a 110 DCPU, TF "medium load" springs (sits about +2"), no ARBs, Gywn Lewis cranked trailing arms with HD sliders, steering/tranny/diff/tank guards, NAS Step and will have a winch + HD bumper on the front and a full cage so I would like to keep those in mind when going for new dampers.

Driving is 70/30 on road/off road. Laning, P&Ps and that kind of thing, not so much racing etc...

Looked at the Extreme4x4 Challenge Dampers which seem decent for £47.99 a piece, but given the name quite hard to find any info about them online.

Old Man Emu is also a choice but I can't find any +2 dampers?

Bilstein B6s as well but they don't seem to do +2s either

Any other suggestions? Would Ideally like to stay below £100 a corner but would go above if it is worth it.

Thanks
Post #664524 15th Nov 2017 2:05pm
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I have Fox on mine.

I don't know if it's a forum thing where everybody has their favourite based on recommendations from other forum users but they seem under represented considering they have a huge presence in competitive applications!

Build quality is brilliant, ride quality very good... Longevity I don't know as I've only had them about 9 months but seem ok so far.

They are available in +2" (+1.5" to +3.5" flavour) and are (almost) within your budget!

Would recommend

Available from
https://www.flatdoguk.com/fox-shock-absorb...front~1420

http://www.prolinx.biz/pages/Products/View...ers/f1o29/

Slightly cheaper from prolinx, can't remember why I ordered from Flatdog... Think maybe shipping was free


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Post #664528 15th Nov 2017 2:27pm
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MartinK



Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border)
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
I am no expert here, having LOWERED the rear of my Defender by 50mm... I also installed KONI HEAVY TRAK shocks which improved ride a lot...

However - can you use standard shocks with these??? https://gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/defende...op-plates/ Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #664530 15th Nov 2017 2:38pm
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
I would give Gwyn Lewis a ring and ask what they'd recommend, they're so customer service orientated it's amazing.

They've stopped me wasting hundreds of £ which might have gone there way and all i've brought from them is a full set of their mud guards for a 90!

However when I do my suspension, i'll buy everything but the springs from them Thumbs Up 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #664538 15th Nov 2017 3:18pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
The Fox shocks are looking more appealing, considering splashing the cash and then not worrying about it for years to come.

How do they hold up to body roll?

I did look at the Konis but they all seem to be for lowered Defenders which im not interested in.

I will have a chat with them, the rest of my set up bar springs is GL!
Post #664540 15th Nov 2017 3:25pm
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williamthedog



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
Got koni heavy track on mine, not lowered.
Post #664577 15th Nov 2017 6:05pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Lifted?
Post #664579 15th Nov 2017 6:09pm
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williamthedog



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
Sitting on heavy duty standard height springs, but it sits higher than standard.
Post #664581 15th Nov 2017 6:13pm
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
bankz5152 wrote:
The Fox shocks are looking more appealing, considering splashing the cash and then not worrying about it for years to come.

How do they hold up to body roll?

I did look at the Konis but they all seem to be for lowered Defenders which im not interested in.

I will have a chat with them, the rest of my set up bar springs is GL!


Ben is very knowledgeable, obviously Glynn is the main guy though 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #664582 15th Nov 2017 6:15pm
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Tommo



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 Black LE Java Black
How much would a genuine one be??
Post #664633 15th Nov 2017 8:01pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Gen dont do +2s.
Post #664639 15th Nov 2017 8:18pm
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Mdm



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give Gwyn or Devon 4x4 a shout.

d44 used to do there own springs as a cheaper alternative to ome which are very very good.

I'm running 3yr old big bore tf shocks and they are lasting well , bar the crap paint and bushes having worn out very quickly.

as an alternative to the big cheap brands try Paul at West coast he doesn't advertise much lr stuff but does stock the Ironman range which i have on another truck and they are very good and fairly priced alternative. they seem to last a long time on Toyota and they can be heavy old rigs.
Post #664659 15th Nov 2017 9:07pm
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alexatnd



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Was jusst going to post a Damper query when I found this thread. Back ion the day ( long time ago) I fitted Koni Shocks to my Fiat 124 and they really were the dogs b******s!.

Don't seem to see many people recommending Konis these days and I wondered why (other than the price) . When we head to france for the family holiday every year, Gertie our 110 has 5 bikes, a tandem,roofbox camping kit and family squeezed into her. and could really do with tightening up the suspension, will probablyalso fit anti-roll bars.

Not really interested in raising or lowering suspension for looks, just want something that copes with wide range of load situations. Was chatting to an italian guy in our normal campsite that had the big bore Konis fitted and he certainly swore by them.

Noticed 1 or two people menton they had Konis. Been reading the TF catalogue and did wonder about them. Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County
Post #667472 28th Nov 2017 9:01am
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LandRoverAnorak



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They are quite expensive but I'd have Koni's again. I've had them fitted to two previous Land Rovers (a Discovery 1 that was kitted out for overland travel and a 110 station wagon) and think they're superb. I've only not fitted them to my current 90 as the use really doesn't justify them. Darren

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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
Post #667484 28th Nov 2017 9:39am
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rallysteve



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green
Think people are getting a little confused about what a 'shock absorber' actually does. Although a stiffer 'sport' shock will firm up the ride during sudden jolts they will not reduce body roll. All they really do is slow the movement of the suspension and kill and bouncing. I have previously heard people who think that fitting different shocks will lower or raise the ride height on their own.

A gas charged shock will marginally increase the spring rate but not by any substantial amount.

Reduce body roll = stiffer springs/anti roll bars
Change ride height = different spring rate/length of springs
Firmer reaction to change in direction = firmer shocks

Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
Post #667490 28th Nov 2017 9:53am
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