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doublea



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I've had some fun and games with "customer services" over the years, but this thread brought to mind a wee success story.

I used to go to the local car boot regularly. One day, I saw 6 packs of kitchen door handles. They were pairs of B&Q own-branded handles, unopened. I asked the seller why she hadn't taken them back and she said she couldn't be bothered. Did a deal, £5 for the lot.

You'll know where I'm going with this...

Next time I was at B&Q, I presented these at the returns desk and received a credit note for £60.

Right enough, receipt not required, just proof of purchase! Current Steeds:
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Post #659142 23rd Oct 2017 1:08pm
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Procta



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I have had seen one person return a bottle of red wine that they bought and drank, filled it back up with black coffee. Then tried to return it due it tasting odd. They had the receipt too! Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

In the words of my Good Friend, Gary Forrest 1980 -2025
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Post #659166 23rd Oct 2017 3:48pm
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leeds



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Now Procta, do you wonder why some companies have processes in places for dealing with returns?

As a small company we have had people try to put it bluntly screw us over. Yes we have had people claiming that goods we have supplied are faulty. Yes we have sent replacements out before getting the so called 'faulty' goods back. Guess what? Yep the so called 'faulty' goods are not returned. I have some expressions for those 'people' and their 'actions'


What I hate/amuses me is when I hear people say those immortal words "I know my rights"

Even had someone quote the Distance Selling Regulations to me. Now under DSR there is a cooling off period. Ooops! Only one slight problem there, he had spent 3 hours at our place of business. So guess what? Yep DSR do not apply when you visit a place of business. Yes he knew 'his rights!'

Personally we would like to treat people the way we would like to be treated. However we have been forced to protect ourselves and our interests.

So do you wonder why small and large companies have processes in place to deal with returns?



Brendan
Post #659263 23rd Oct 2017 10:08pm
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What puddle?



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As I always tell my wife - act straight and honest, and you just can't go wrong. I run a small business, and on our website, I even put that you, the customer, have rights, and I state what those rights are. I have to know those rights so that I act within the law. Hence when a shopping experience goes wrong for me, I already know the right way to behave. Most people I know don't know anything about the '6 year rule' on electrical goods (actually, not just electrical). Companies like to sell you an extended 5 year warranty (that is actually 4!) but you can go back to a retailer generally up to 6 years (5 years in Scotland) - look, the only time you'll see me linking to a Guardian article!: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2006/mar...tocomplain

There are get-outs for retailers and manufacturers, such as issues of hygiene. The products we sell can be returned for a refund, but not if you open the packaging - for hygiene reasons. The law allows us to apply that condition. In my other small business, I have to have terms & conditions, but I have added a little note saying that I wish I didn't have to have them, as I know it alienates some people. But people will take advantage of my good nature if I don't state T&Cs. Now left.
Post #659269 23rd Oct 2017 10:25pm
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Procta



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leeds wrote:
Now Procta, do you wonder why some companies have processes in places for dealing with returns?

As a small company we have had people try to put it bluntly screw us over. Yes we have had people claiming that goods we have supplied are faulty. Yes we have sent replacements out before getting the so called 'faulty' goods back. Guess what? Yep the so called 'faulty' goods are not returned. I have some expressions for those 'people' and their 'actions'


What I hate/amuses me is when I hear people say those immortal words "I know my rights"

Even had someone quote the Distance Selling Regulations to me. Now under DSR there is a cooling off period. Ooops! Only one slight problem there, he had spent 3 hours at our place of business. So guess what? Yep DSR do not apply when you visit a place of business. Yes he knew 'his rights!'

Personally we would like to treat people the way we would like to be treated. However we have been forced to protect ourselves and our interests.

So do you wonder why small and large companies have processes in place to deal with returns?



Brendan


Brendan when I worked for asda, I have seen people try to return items from other companies, even items that were well long out of production, and claimed that they only bought it 3 weeks ago! What asda started to do with electrical goods, was put the year on they were made, and have a file with current list on what was going to go out etc. Made me laugh when the fella tried to return a Big back TV that had been out of production well over 3 years, by then we were bringing in phase 2 flat screens. Plus the company that made the tv wasn't no longer making tvs under that name, and hadn't done for some time. yeah I do know why companies do have processes in place to protect them selves and their staff. like I stated you do get a fare few try and pull a fast one, seen it for 13 years sadly. The company had to change its guarantees on electrical goods twice due to people bring back " faulty goods" just so that the could get another 3 years etc. I bet its even worse for internet based companies as you stated with people trying to get a replacement etc.
If I have to return anything I always treat the customer service operator with respect etc, as I do know what its like on that side of the fence. I have been spoken to like Censored before etc when dealing and serving customers. it all becomes white noise and it just brushes off. At the end of the day you don't have to serve them do you? if they start been nasty etc.
One thing I was told too, if you have a item on display, and you are out of stock, and they start going on about why can I not buy that one etc, At the end of the day your display item isn't for sale, that's the companies and its up to the company to sell that one. A lot of people don't really know that either. I have had that a few times about can I buy the display etc.
Like I say its a shame that you do get some customers trying to be funny which makes things harder for genuine people sadly.
Going back to the coffee filled with wine, we all did have a very good laugh at that, and the customer ended up looking like a right fool.
Very Happy
I could tell a few more Brendan Wink Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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" we will work something out"
Post #659487 24th Oct 2017 9:39pm
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leeds



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Procta, I am sure that we could swop stories about customers returning/trying to return goods and the companies different attitudes to customers..

Now with rights comes responsibilities and that is on both sides of the contract involved in buying/selling goods.

Now genuine mistakes can be made on both sides of the contract and that is regrettable.

However there is also an element of both sides of the contract not fully understanding their rights/responsibilities down all the way to one side or the other of the contract trying to extract the urine to put it mildly.

For large companies being at the wrong end of a complaint is one thing, for a small company it can be extremely personal.


Brendan
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