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Caterham



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AutoCAD - the options
I'm guessing there are very few and monthly payments is the only option (ie no out right purchase)?

It all seems rather pricey and I don't think I can justify the costs for the very limited and infrequent work I'm likely to get involved with?

thoughts / options?
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rallysteve



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Download a copy of DSS Draftsight from their website. Free for individual private use.

Almost identical in use to AudoCAD and recognizes all of the typed commands I have used. Also able to open and save AutoCAD .dwg files.

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Shocked

thank you. sounds too good to be true.

any idea what the cons are over AutoCAD?
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Caterham



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wow. just had a look at the website / videos....looks remarkably similar Thumbs Up
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If you are using it for basic things in isolation hardly any that I have come across. It is slightly less user friendly than the later versions of AutoCAD (maybe comparable with 'classic view' otodsf 2013ish). The help/support on the DSS version is not in the same league as Autodesk offering.

The main advantage of Draftsight is the free licence for personal use. They do charge for the commercial licences.

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+1 for Draftsite. I use AutoCad on a daily basis at work, but some of the people who use it infrequently use Draftsite to view drawings sent to them and it is remarkably good.

I use it at home as it is very difficult to justify spending out to Autodesk for something that's not used every day.
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A couple of my guys have bought student licences from ebay - 3/4 yrs for 40 quid. V8 90...WIP
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I just get out my drawing board, T square, etc. They have served me well for the last 50 years. Very Happy Don't make old people mad.
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Hello Caterham

Our Business uses both AutoCAD and Microstation (preferred) on a commercial basis
but these have both moved (typically) to a licence arrangement, and whilst we can justify the 'cost of use'
it has never sat well with me...its just too much money for staying 'current' and the incremental
'improvements' with each years releases, 'updates'.

Personal use 'free' DWG Format platforms, are out there, and Draftsight is one of the best.

If you are determined to 'buy and own', for the money (IMO) you wont better
either Corel CAD or SketchUp

I started with the 2D Corel Draw product 20+ years ago...fantastic

The Corel CAD (2D and 3D Modelling Tool is also excellent) £640
http://www.coreldraw.com/en/product/corel-cad/

If I had to only use one product then it would be...
SketchUp 2017 Pro (Commercial) £700
with DWG Input and Output Layout Drawing standard, (along with numerous other formats)
https://www.sketchup.com/

Sketch (2017) now rivals 2D and 3D products at X4 the Price and the online Model Warehouse
available is just fantastic...want a Nut, Bolts, Washer, or Whole Product, (FF&E / Fixture, Fitting or Equipment) chances are that for general engineering (design) purposes it's on there...

Both available for free Trial Download...

Good Luck SKIP
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We use FastCAD at work and does everything we require. They also have a program EasyCAD maybe worth looking at if you want to buy and own. Thumbs Up James
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+1 for sketchup. I do have issue importing some dwg files onto it though. V8 90...WIP
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Autocad light £300 a year which doesnt sound too bad. Especially when we were paying thousands for it in the office a few years ago.

Depends what you want to do though. If you need to correspond with other professionals Acad is still the standard (which I hate) or if you are 3d printing I use sketchup with good results

TC
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