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ken



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Mandatory daytime lights for all European-built cars and van
ALL cars and light delivery vans sold in Europe will be equipped with dedicated daytime running lights from Monday (February 7) with claims that road safety will improve.

The lights will automatically switch on when the engine is started under new European Union rules.

Brussels bureaucrats claim daytime running lights increase the visibility of motor vehicles to other road users, and have a low energy consumption compared to existing dipped-beam head lamps.

The directive will be extended to include trucks and buses from August 2012.

So are we Feb or Aug Rolling with laughter
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volvos have had DRL's for decades. i think nthey re a good idea but some of those led on citreons and auds are a bit much
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Ironic then that the UK made this a legal requirement some years ago and was then order to revoke the requirement since it was considered to be illegal under European law!

If I recall correctly there is some evidence to show that in countries where cars are required to have DRLs more motorcyclists die in accidents.

What a farce! It woudl be funny if it didn't cost us so much to pay for these moron lawmakers.
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My current works car is a 60 plate Audi A3 and as the LED DRL's but they only work when and if I remember to swich them on!!!! Rolling with laughter

Kinda makes a mockery of it if you can switch them off Whistle

Another year another Euro law - please wake me up when sanity returns to the world

Mark
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ken



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Mark from Monday you wont be able to with new productions up till now they have been a style feature

Oh BTW is it true what JC sez about Audi drivers Wink (Dont worry company ride X1-3-5-6 so I cant talk Laughing )
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i don't mind the bmw rings on the 3 / 5 series etc

those audi leds suck
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My work van has Day Time Running Lights. On a sunny day if you look at the vehicle head on the lights obscure the indicators they are that bright. Bit difficult when you are in the middle of the road stationary trying to turn right. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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i' a fan of DLRs. save me down dark shady country lanes a few times. especially when driving my old green Saab or in my previous Coniston green 90. they were perfectly camouflaged,

i'm in the habit of always putting my dips on in the 90 and with the switch covering the key i don't forget to switch them off.

still thiking about the DRL LED side lights. BM52
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I would be tempted to remove them Whistle

Last time i checked...i saw the cars this morning.

Why not make everyone where hi-vis jackets when walking so we see them too Mike
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Grockle wrote:
I keep a torch at hand all the time Thumbs Up


Laughing BM52
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mse wrote:
I would be tempted to remove them Whistle

Last time i checked...i saw the cars this morning.

Why not make everyone where hi-vis jackets when walking so we see them too


Dont worry no doubt we will be like the French soon and have to have hi Vis in every car aswel !!! If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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I’ve used them since the early 70s. They make pedestrians aware of you far more than they should. Also cars have more respect, my theory is that you seem bigger or nearer. At least they will help us to see those silly Censored who don’t put their lights on when it’s dark.

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I'm not a fan of compulsory daytime lighting, being a motorcyclist you need all the help you can get being made visible, so if every other car is driving around with its lights on motorcyclists (with their lights on) are less likely to be noticed Confused
And, it is akin to the hi-viz vest thing, so everyone will have to be made to wear one as a pedestrian incase they bump into one another - by all means its your choice to do as you please with regard to lights/vests but no-one should be forced, the worlds gone mad i tell thee!
I'm glad I dont work in a Health and Safety gone mad environment, and I say what I want when I want grrrrrrr......

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chiefstoker wrote:
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I'm glad I dont work in a Health and Safety gone mad environment, and I say what I want when I want grrrrrrr......

Mr. Green


Know what you mean. I like DRLs but that's my view, each to their own, but i see your point of view, there again i have never been a motorcyclist and i may not appreciate what you say but everyone who has a licence should drive with care and attention and defensively. most seem to drive relying on the vehicle technology and braking etc to keep them on the road.

perhaps we should start a Grumpy Old Man LR Club Forum! Confused Rolling Eyes BM52
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