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Chopperone



Member Since: 13 Nov 2016
Location: Derbyshire
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Ignition key problems
My 2007 TdCi sometimes ( with both keys I have) will not allow me to turn the ignition key to disable the vehicle manufacturers steering column lock.
Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 minutes & it looks like I am stealing the vehicle Embarassed whilst I am cursing the lock.

Now , I am prepared to change the lock but what is best so that I am not having to have a separate key for the door /ignition plus my locking fuel cap/steering wheel lock & pedal lock....
Is it worth changing to the X- Engineering lock whilst I am in there OR does this do something different?
TIA
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
Post #621095 2nd May 2017 6:31pm
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williamthedog



Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
The X engineering lock is a solid metal cover that goes over the standard lock.
Worth fitting though Thumbs Up
Post #621105 2nd May 2017 6:52pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Post #621108 2nd May 2017 6:57pm
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grafty99



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
Also have you tried taking the pressure off the lock by moving the steering wheel? My girlfriend couldn't get the steering lock off mine once and it was because she hadn't removed the pressure by turning the wheel Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Post #621141 2nd May 2017 7:56pm
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Chopperone



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Graffty99 - I have tried all of that.
Williamthedog- didn't realise that about the X eng block
Ericvv - I will try that but I think it isn't the lock sticking. I think it is wear & tear more than anything
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Post #621171 2nd May 2017 9:27pm
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MadTom



Member Since: 10 Sep 2013
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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
I have to remove the steering lock, dismantle, clean, place the small parts back in right order and place it back into the car.
The lock was full of mixture of old oil with dust, and it was blocking easy movement of internal parts.
Don't wait to long, or it will be worse, and you will not be able to start car.
I did it 3 times in different Defenders and twice in Discovery 2. All have no problems now. Hardest one was a Defender parked between trees in wood with lot of snow around. We were not able to pull the car out of the wood, because of close trees and locked steering, so I had to remove the lock there. The owner spent there half a day in very cold conditions, being not very lucky. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #621222 3rd May 2017 7:18am
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Bushpig



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Wales 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Alpine White
I had the exact same & the graphite powder worked a treat Thumbs Up
I did the power every second week for about 6-8 weeks and now bi-monthly and the jamming of the steering lock is now a distant memory... Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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Post #621343 3rd May 2017 2:53pm
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Chopperone



Member Since: 13 Nov 2016
Location: Derbyshire
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Did it again yesterday despite over the last 3 or 4 weeks me squirting graphite into the lock.
I think I need to disassemble the lock & throughly clean it.
To be fair I would prefer to replace it with new but keep the existing key so I don't have to change door locks.
Anyone know of a way to do this?
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Post #627886 31st May 2017 5:28am
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VVS210



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You can order new lock sets from LR I believe if you have the metal tag that came with the keys & has the key number stamped on it.
Post #627889 31st May 2017 6:38am
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foxyred



Member Since: 16 Jul 2016
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England 1994 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Montalcino Red
Get a lockset fro Maltings off Road £100 comes with three door barrels and ignition lock
Post #627892 31st May 2017 7:08am
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JWL



Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
I know it sounds a little daft but over the years on several Land Rovers I've come across this problem and one answer that has gone a long way to curing it is to get a new key cut. My last 110 came with two sets of keys, one that was used on a daily basis and the other set that was kept in the owners workshop for their mechanics to use when work was needed instead of trying to find the driver and faff about collecting keys which meant the workshop set were like new. I had similar issues to the OP and just tried the "spare" set with no problems at all. What happens is that the keys themselves wear and cause issues when trying them in the ignition barrel, a good key cutter should be able to be a little generous when cutting a new key from your worn one which in turn is a lot less expensive than changing all the barrels.
Post #628040 31st May 2017 7:28pm
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xpertoftheseas



Member Since: 05 Jan 2016
Location: Salisbury, Wilts
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
This started happening on mine about two months ago to the point where I had to play around with the ignition key in the barrel for a couple of minutes to get the key to turn to start.

Dealer replaced the entire barrel and door locks under warranty. All good now. My 10th Land Rover, but my first Defender.
Post #628852 4th Jun 2017 9:25am
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