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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888   
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The TD5 setup is completely different and not compatible with a 300TDi.
Having said that though, there IS a very simple solution - the 300TDi pickup from a plastic tank Discovery will fit a TD5 tank. You can then run a standard 300TDi Discovery setup. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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15th May 2015 9:18pm |
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| chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347  
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Thanks very much Dave, it'll save a lot of cuting and welding on the side now to have a horribly shaped fuel hole lol
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15th May 2015 9:50pm |
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| Lotus_esprit_s1 Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Uk Posts: 201 |
I have a ROW 300tdi 90 with this setup as standard.
The correct ROW fuel pickup / sender unit for a 300tdi 90 with rear plastic fuel tank is available for about £70 new from main dealers still. The disco one works but fuel gauge isn't accurate Don't forget the exhaust pipe will need to be changed if you fit the rear td5 tank. The correct 300tdi ROW rear pipe is discontinued by Land Rover and no-one makes a correct pattern pipe. People will say that the late 300tdi rear pipe with no silencer will fit but it won't. Bearmach sell a pipe made by Bosal with the correct ROW part number but it is wrong - it is just a TD5 rear pipe. You need to buy a standard late 300tdi 1997 onwards mid pipe with silencer and a standard TD5 rear silencer, you will need to make an extension piece to extend the mid section by 135mm with a 3 bolt flange to mate up with the td5 rear pipe - photos below.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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21st May 2015 9:53pm |
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| chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347
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Thank you my friend, most informative. I'll print this out along with the pictures and take it to the guy who's doing the work etc, it's bound to save him a hell of a lot of potching about (and me no end of money) in the long run. Thank you once again
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21st May 2015 10:08pm |
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| Lotus_esprit_s1 Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Uk Posts: 201 |
I spent countless hours on the phone trying to order the correct pipe, ended up with three wrong ones, before realising that the RoW 90 is such a rare beast that I was on my own and knocked up that adaptor in 20mins! The mid section silencer needs the late rear mounting bracket which bolts directly to a frame crossmember by two m6 bolts, I think YRM do them if yours is an earlier 300tdi.
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21st May 2015 10:18pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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for fuel tank
isn't the td5 and tdci the same tank , but the td5 has a electric fuel pump , tdci 2.4 doesn't , so could you use the tdci fuel pick up in the td5 tank doing away with electric pump or use a tdci 2.4 fuel tank complete ? sorry don't know 100% |
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22nd May 2015 7:13am |
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| chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347
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Bloody hell there is so much to learn isn't there. Thank you both Lotus_esprit and Munch for your expert opinions, i'll take them back to my mechanic chappie and see what he says. Thank you both very much
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23rd May 2015 10:12pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347  
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Off topic but .....This thread is a perfect example of why I love this forum so much
Share the knowledge! It enriches us all! Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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23rd May 2015 10:16pm |
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| chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347
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Exactly
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23rd May 2015 10:18pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Blimey that's cheap when I had my 300TDI Disco it was a lot more money. I initially thought I'd save a bob or two and bought 'reconditioned' and had to exchange it as it was making a hell of a racket, the second too the sender didn't work and I ended up buying new. If memory serves me correctly the combined unit was well over £200 at that time. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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24th May 2015 7:20am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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thinking about it you may find the fuel level sender in the tdci tank might not work with a 300 tdi gauge
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24th May 2015 8:40am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110 
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Had a similar problem when I rebuilt my project and changed the rear tub to a TD5 one, so I installed this pipe to run from the TD5 back filler to the under seat tank. I got a stainless steel exhaust manufacturer to make up the pipe for me think at the time it cost somewhere in the region of £50.00 and works a treat.
You will also need a length of rubber tubing to extend the breather pipe all the original rubber hoses from filler neck and fuel tank are still used, though I bought new OEM ones. It really is a simple job to fit once you have the stainless pipe and a few hose clips. Click image to enlarge For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 Last edited by gilarion on 24th May 2015 12:15pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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24th May 2015 12:06pm |
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| Dave Member Since: 30 Aug 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 165 
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cool, extra capacity too - ish  Captain Nick Medhurst would ask:
"What is the first rule when overlanding?" I would Reply: "Duratrac" |
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24th May 2015 12:09pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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Yes
When I fill up to capacity I reckon I get an extra six or seven litres (great when you have a Tesco voucher for 10p or 20p a litre off ).
The great thing about this mod is you leave everything as it is exhaust, fuel tank, electrics, pump etc. And it saves you a fortune by not having to replace anything. And if the garage who is doing your work can bend pipe then you do not even need to find an exhaust manufacturer to do the pipe. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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24th May 2015 12:25pm |
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