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g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967 |
is it the exhaust that is noisy? also presume when he says "chipped" he probably means tweaking fuel pump, as 300tdi isn't computer controlled My 109 thread
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27th Jan 2017 11:09am |
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Ramsay Member Since: 30 Sep 2015 Location: Moffat, Dumfries & Galloway Posts: 627 |
An '87 90 would not have had a 300 TDi orginally. So when was it fitted and how was the exhaust run then.
Is the noise problem one of when you are outside it or inside driving? The standard 90 exhaust is not too bad. However the engine noise is pretty loud on the TDi. Is there any sound reduction in place on the timing cover or under the bonnet? Have you any sound proofing in the rest of the vehicle. The flat panels do like to resonate. 1995 Defender 110 CSW 1971 SIIA Lightweight |
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27th Jan 2017 11:16am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Do you know what year your 300tdi engine is? I ask because if it's pre-'97 then there isn't anything to 'chip' as it's an entirely mechanical system. A rudimentary electronic management system was introduced in '97 that can be tinkered with although those offering the service seem to be few and far between these days. Regardless though, I can't see how it would make it any quieter
To be honest, unless you think there's something physically wrong with it (and a fresh MOT suggests not), then normal operating noise can be relatively easily reduced by soundproofing the interior. There are lots of threads about it on here and a quick search for Dynamat or Silentcoat will bring up lots of entries. I'm not sure about fitting bits of Discovery exhaust. I guess it may help but it's not a modification I've heard of before. If my 200tdi is anything to go by though, the biggest sources of noise are the engine itself and road noise, both of which can be reduced by soundproofing as mentioned. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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27th Jan 2017 11:16am |
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chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347 |
Exhaust and engine is noisy and he did mean tweaking yes
It's noisy inside and out but not as bad inside as outside. A mate has a 300Tdi and his drives past my house and I can hardly hear it, my wifes sounds like a tractor. I've fitted a silver padded panel under the bonnet to reduce sound but it's still noisy and the rest of the vehicle has all been soundproofed. The roof with a thick insulating sponge and the rest with those flat silver panels.
It's a mid 90's 300Tdi I believe not long before the switch to the Td5. The engine runs sweet as a nut (albeit it gets a little hot if left to tick over for too long). We had the timing checked recently and it was adjusted as it was one (point/mark whatever) out of the correct alignment and that helped a little as well as fuel consumption. I found out today that the downpipe from the manifold that was (and is) on there is a Disco one and the rest they put in was a Defender. I just want to get it quiet both outside and in if possible. A mechanic told me a bigger intercooler would make it quieter but the guy from Allisports said that's rubbish, it wouldn't make any noticeable difference. |
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27th Jan 2017 12:36pm |
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Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674 |
My 300tdi runs a normal defender manifold, a straight through mid section and a normal tail pipe and that isn't loud I wouldn't of said.
For the engine check your tappets (0.008 in) as they can lead to noisy running, I purchased a standard 300tdi engine cover off eBay for 15/20£ And it made a noticeable difference in the noise. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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27th Jan 2017 12:51pm |
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shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 |
First things first,
Check for any leaks in the exhaust system. Check the timing is correct Check tappet clearences Assuming the engine is running well and has no obvious leaks then you can start looking for other things. There is no ecu to tweek and its pointless tweaking an engine which may have issues. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter |
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27th Jan 2017 1:18pm |
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chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347 |
Will do my friend. It's booked in next Wednesday to have the new SVX wiring loom I had installed previously in the last place done right so the sidelights come on without the main lamps so i'll get the new guy to check that while it's in
No leaks in the exhaust and I know the timing is correct as it was done less than 6 weeks ago so i'll do as you and Mash suggested and get the tappets checked. How is your restoration going by the way? I need to check up on your post. Many thanks everyone |
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27th Jan 2017 1:33pm |
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benniferj Member Since: 20 Oct 2016 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 361 |
When you say it sounds like a tractor - if you're running a straight pipe and no silencer then it's going to be that way. I just had a full stainless straight through system on mine but its a bit of an off road machine and it's great for me. The engine itself isn't particularly loud and the main volume certainly comes from the exhaust.
Have you been up to date on all your oil changes etc? |
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28th Jan 2017 12:44pm |
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g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967 |
wish mine sounded like a v12 spitfire!! My 109 thread
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28th Jan 2017 1:08pm |
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ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945 |
Yea so do I
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28th Jan 2017 1:13pm |
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sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1218 |
Have you checked the obvious and the engine, gearbox and exhaist mounts are in good nick? Im guessing these should have been picked up by the MoT. The other thing is is the exhaust hitting something and vibrating away? Ed
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28th Jan 2017 4:04pm |
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grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785 |
+1 for exhaust clearance. I popped my straight through back on after my trip to scotland and didn't check the alignment and just tightened it up. When I started it the noise volume was incredible! Slackened the bolts and aligned so it would clear everything. Quiet as a mouse (well as rather angry mouse) 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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28th Jan 2017 4:11pm |
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chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347 |
The exhaust is sound (both centre and rear box) as are the mounts and oils everything, I spare no expense on this as it's my wifes vehicle. When it went in for the MOT the tester said he's never seen a vehicle as old as this (30 years old this year) in such excellent condition. The engine is sound and was very low mileage when purchased (80k odd and has only done just shy of 100k now). I'm really at a loss, the only thing left to check I believe are the tappets which will be done next Wednesday when it's in to have the SVX wiring loom corrected from the last garage who installed it wrong so the sidelights only come on with the main headlights.
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28th Jan 2017 6:47pm |
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chrispy Member Since: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Gwent Posts: 347 |
The tappets were fine, apparently it turns out it was a dodgy injector causing all the noise. It's being done today so hopefully we'll have a much quieter 90 this evening. I've questioned it's sluggishness before but was told that's just how they are but with this injector sorted will that improve things performance wise?
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2nd Feb 2017 9:58am |
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