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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324  
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That's an odd looking plinth
 When I did this to my old 110 the plinths had holes in to take screws rather than studs:
 Click image to enlarge Also, there's no hole for the light to fit through. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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27th Sep 2016 5:21pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769  
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Take the bolts out and redrill the plinth holes to match up with the existing clips then either take the plastic clips out of the panel and use the bolts or use screws into the existing plastic clips. Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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27th Sep 2016 5:37pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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Seems the bolts are sunk into the plastic not as easy as just removing? as below
Click image to enlarge Could I hammer them out? or vice grip and twist? Or should I just give these up and get these ones that should fit? http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/defender-95mm-nas-plinth.html  as I would be after 8 so a lot for 8 bits of plastic.... |
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27th Sep 2016 6:30pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17442 
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Those are not OE plinths!
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27th Sep 2016 6:43pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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These are a lot cheaper and MPs are great to deal with
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFEN...SwHoFXtHD9 Personally I'd re adjust the ones you've got Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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27th Sep 2016 6:53pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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Also I've just noticed the plinths you have don't have any seals on the back so they will probably let lots of water in. Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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27th Sep 2016 6:55pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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Hello
I'm certain they are NOT oem, but I never bought them thinking they were, so no issue with that. I've just had a go with mole grips and pliers and got the two bolts out... 
If I make a seal at the back or reuse the seals off my old lights do you think these are still usable or just get those other ones? These came from this web site? bowers parts? http://www.bowerspartsonline.co.uk/vehicle...over-parts Thanks |
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27th Sep 2016 7:04pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20440
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Buy some neoprene rubber or foam off eBay on a sheet, cut to size. Good seal and cost peanuts.
Your LED lights are waterproof anyway as a unit, the plinth is just a mount.  $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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27th Sep 2016 7:07pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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^ Cheers (again)
I have some from my sound proofing but its 8mm... saying that screws tight guess it will squash up? Another plug and play job that isn't.....  |
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27th Sep 2016 7:13pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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They are cheap and very cheap dare I say nasty without getting slapped?
They are 95 mm plinths that are designed for other vehicles apart from Land Rover Defenders. The correct OEM ones just screw from the outside onto the vehicle. No need to drill holes for the fixing studs, no need to grovel up on the inside of the vehicle to put a nut on. Which would be impossible if you have a wing tank fitted. With the correct OEM plinth the connectors just pass through the hole in the middle of the plinth. With that plinth you will either have to drill out the centre of the plinth or mess around with the connectors. My advice would be to buy the correct Defender NAS plinth. Please note on the sellers website those plinths are described as NAS style not NAS specification Brendan |
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27th Sep 2016 7:26pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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Brendan...
Your right, NAS style not NAS specification is the key.. hence the gaps are not correct. My Bad for not spotting that. As far as Quality, the plastic I'm sure is no different to the £10 ones? its just a mold? I will see how I go at adapting one of these, if it goes pear shaped then I will take your advice
The lights fitting into these are sealed as Steve said, so it is just in affect a big plastic washer to hold them? |
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27th Sep 2016 7:39pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Sorry Stacey but it is not a simple case that it is the same plastic as the more expensive ones
The chances are it is an injection moulding however just because it is claimed to be the same plastic does not mean that it is the same grade or quality. The more expensive ones are ( yes am surmising from a previous life  ) made from 100% virgin material of the appropriate molecular weight. Cheaper components are likely to be moulded from material with a large percentage of reclaimed material, carbon black in etc.
Have a look at www.dont-get-burnt.com which is a comparison of material from the Australian Safari Snorkels and some of their copies. In a previous existence we had to tell a company after some research that failure in their products could be simply overcome. Our advice was quite simple after 2 months testing. Conclusion was to ignore the accountants, buy a decent grade of polymer with known products and use a good injection moulding company. Brendan |
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27th Sep 2016 8:00pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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 I'm not going any further ^ You know your plastic
I will however see if I can get these to fit before I have a plan B (Bin them) 
I had a quick search on your site but could not see them? do you offer the correct ones? Thanks again |
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27th Sep 2016 8:14pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3757
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Hello
Decided over the evening and sleeping in it to return these, Brendan's and others comments, I plan on keeping this truck so don't to be drilling new holes, making up gaskets and doing a botch job. These were cheap compared to actually NAS lights but not what I call Cheap Cheap (£170 order) So I e-mailed the company last night and this moring, an de-mail saying please return them for a full refund no quibble. Happy all round (except I will have to wait longer to have LED rear lights now)
Thanks for the Advice Brendan and others, your knowledge is |
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28th Sep 2016 7:07am |
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