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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127   
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Basic block and top end are all the same,
Just bolt on all the land Rover anciliries that come off your engine, and swap the sump, You will need to swap injectors keeping them to the correct cylinder. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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18th Dec 2016 2:07pm |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193  
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Thanks for the reply Ian have you ever swapped one over from a transit?
I will keep an eye out on ebay for a engine am hoping I can get one for around a £1000 or so |
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18th Dec 2016 9:48pm |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193
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So has anybody ever put a 2.4 engine from a transit in??
Was searching on google last night and seen somewhere that said power steering pump wouldn't bolt on as holes weren't there on the transit block |
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20th Dec 2016 1:14pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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I've swapped plenty of transit engines over, but not from transit to defender.
I've got a good low mileage transit engine in strorage for when my 2.4 defender engine gives up! I could not see any reason why it should not be a straight forward swap? I will check the power steering bolt holes for you.  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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20th Dec 2016 3:01pm |
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| Dreamweapon Member Since: 19 Dec 2016 Location: Hessische Odenwald Posts: 55 
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My own 2008 110 has over 196,000 Kms on the clock (121,000 miles-ish) so I have been keeping an eye on the maximum expected Kms on that type of engine. I have been checking which Transit engine seems to rack up the highest Ks over here in Germany on mobile.de (German Autotrader) and it looks like it is the 140ps 2.4 engine with the VNT turbo and the centrifugal oil filter mounted on the rocker cover, highest I have seen so far is 545000 Kms, with no mention of an exchange engine.
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27th Dec 2016 11:09am |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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With so many variants of ZSD-424 Pumas in Transit and their indistinguishability by optical means, replacing the engine is gambling. It may work, but the outcome is unpredictable. I never checked the outside of Pumas, but was told some do have even there subtle differences.
Where wonderland begins is at the inner parts. I once tried to figure out which crankshaft, piston and con rod bearings of a Transit would suit as parts for a Defender repair and was absolutely unable to identify them in the parts list jungle. My Ford shop also denied me support, because they didn't even know how to look and if there are parts equivalent to Defender parts. The local independent engine repair shop told me they have to specify for i.e. crankshafts the engine serial, actual HP and frame when ordering. They told me crankshafts, pistons and most of the inner parts are hardened to individual fit and especially pistons are fabricated from a wealth of different alloys, looking indistinguishable, which is why they always fear to take the wrong parts when more than one set is on the benches. Maybe we have an engine mechanic from Land Rover here to shine some more light into this, with the production now stopped? Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel. |
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7th Jan 2017 2:16am |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193
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Thanks for replys, am still no further forward with getting an engine i could buy a new bare engine without manifolds etc but is 2.5k+vat
or a second hand one out a damaged defender for 1500 or so from a breakers As still dont know about the transit engine for sure but i think they are abit cheaper from looking on ebay. |
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7th Jan 2017 9:36am |
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| Froglaise Member Since: 24 Sep 2016 Location: left forum Posts: 212 |
£2.5k does not sound bad, where's that from?
Personally I'm hoping my 2.4 lasts until there is a viable electric conversion for every vehicle on the road. I figure 7-10yrs from now electric will suddenly be cheaper option when changing engines. The future if we want it or not although all those greenies don't seem to understand the electricity has to be generated somehow.... |
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7th Jan 2017 11:41am |
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| nicholas2012 Member Since: 28 Jun 2012 Location: lanarkshire Posts: 193
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Its the cheapest i've seen from a company called mdengineering so might just go with it as am meaning to keep the defender a long time anyway
I'm getting some slagging off ma pals saying i should just sell up and buy a hilux 
Youre probably right electric power will be the way to go in the future if it becomes cheap enough to afford |
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7th Jan 2017 12:23pm |
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| Jukathy Member Since: 25 Jan 2015 Location: Berlin Posts: 170 
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Hi NinetyTD I confirm this. Engine parts look similar although properties can be quite different (thanks to computer based logistics) I'd therefore not swap around between different engine types / manufacturers. Best quality shall chiefly serve as a replacement part (i.e. only one quality is being held in stock) Presumably Ford/JLR supply the best quality (i.e. same spares) but quality could also differ. Very difficult ... Best - Juliet |
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7th Jan 2017 6:48pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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Ok this is from memory reading something a long time ago, so I might be talking b
 s. I can't remember what Land Rover platform it was but the question was asked if a similar engine could be used from another vehicle, same basic block etc, some of the posts did indicate that the lump put in the Land Rover had additional oil galleries added to help counter oil starvation at extreme angles. I don't know if this was true or even if it would matter as very few on here push their defenders to the limit as normaly their bottle goes before the defender hits its limit.
Just thought I'd add that in just in case the info I read was correct, hate to see all the trouble of fitting an engine and your first off road jaunt kills it. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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7th Jan 2017 8:14pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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It was the shape of the sump that changed, prop shaft would hit otherwise.
I think there were baffles requested by LR aswell? As long as it's the right spec MK7 transit engine with piston cooling jets, and set up for VVT it will be a simple swap. I've got a spare 140 ps from a 2010 transit ready to go in my Defender, should mine give up. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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7th Jan 2017 8:25pm |
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