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mse



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Much calmer this morning thanks, and i have decided to simply ignore the obvious stirrers altogether. Wink

Had a long think and I have decided to simply close the BBS technical support forum section we created for the NANOCOM altogether.

All support will now be provided soley via the origional method (Support@nanocom.it) and the reserved area for downloading upgrades etc as per origional expectation.

Technical Support will be provided as best we are able to all NANOCOM owners, old and new.

Re the massive price hike, its no secret, as it is for sale on our shop for anyone who wants to look, it went up by a staggering 23 Euro, which interestingly is almost the same as the 10% discount we offer to established forum members of this board. Buy a a few and they actually come much cheaper than before. I have also added expansion options in the form of additional model unlock codes.

further assumption that i will somehow change the system to be vin locked is also completely unfounded as is the assumption that i would not provide future developments for the product.


Colin

It seemed to take a lot to get there (as it always does) but thats all I personally needed to hear from Day one.

What your vision was, how you were going to do it, what your thoughts were and how you were going to honour and support customers.

For that clarity (and in the hope of future clarity) im now considering (as in i will in the next few months) getting the TD5 module.

So for the good communication, strategy, support for the future and importantly respecting (without any escalation) your past customers - you will get some more cash and custom from me in the future.

Pete - ill probably look to get this through you when im ready - always had a lot of time for you as a business man Thumbs Up Mike
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Nanocom has now been removed from the BBS shop? I'm sure I saw it on the BBS site yesterday?

Not sure where you can buy them from now as there is no eshop on the Italian nanocom website.

confused Neutral

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Just so I understand, the product can be bought from BBS, but the support comes from Nanocom.it?

Presumably under that scenerio there is a contract between BBS and Nanocom to provide support to purchasers of the unit, and the terms of that support are included in the detail by BBS to a potential buyer?

What I still can't fathom is why in the face of many questions and supposition (due to lack of information) that BBS tells people to "feck off" and accusations of "stirring" are made rather than just saying "sorry guys, should have been clearer, here's the deal, hope this answers the questions". It's totally unprofessional.
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Nanocom has now been removed from the BBS shop? I'm sure I saw it on the BBS site yesterday?

Not sure where you can buy them from now as there is no eshop on the Italian nanocom website.

confused Neutral

Pom


Its still their mate, you need to look in Blackbox Basic Bits.

https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/

Pete


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Post #55386 27th Jan 2011 7:02pm
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pom wrote:

Nanocom has now been removed from the BBS shop? I'm sure I saw it on the BBS site yesterday?

Not sure where you can buy them from now as there is no eshop on the Italian nanocom website.

confused

Pom


Look under the Blackbox basic bits tab...... Whistle
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BigMike wrote:
Just so I understand, the product can be bought from BBS, but the support comes from Nanocom.it?

Presumably under that scenerio there is a contract between BBS and Nanocom to provide support to purchasers of the unit, and the terms of that support are included in the detail by BBS to a potential buyer?

What I still can't fathom is why in the face of many questions and supposition (due to lack of information) that BBS tells people to "feck off" and accusations of "stirring" are made rather than just saying "sorry guys, should have been clearer, here's the deal, hope this answers the questions". It's totally unprofessional.



Yes you can buy from the BBS web shop, a BBS dealer, or if its on the nanocom web site i would assume from their also via email.
Your support to keep it simple for all owners old and new since its a nanocom tool will come from the domain name dedicated to nanocom tool which is nanocom.it

This thread has not had a (lack of information) its had lack of trust, i posted here 3rd post down what was going on , but it seems my words were not trusted or ignored by some just because i dont own BBS or Nanocom.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic5127-15.html

Pete
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Quote:
This thread has not had a (lack of information) its had lack of trust,

Never a truer word spoken Pete Thumbs Up

In support of Petes comment:
Sorry Bigmike but you have absolutely and unreservedly mis quoted me as i clearly said feck up not feck off. perhaps you would now explain your mis quoting me or otherwise accept that you have intentionally or otherwise mis quoted me and now owe me an apology i seriously doubt you have the guts to give.
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POM you are seriously just a stirrer i have no intent to take seriously

On the disco3.co.uk site you openly mocked the Discotr.es web site without explanation and have totally dodged accountabillty for your comments
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic59962.html
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Rolling with laughter

Oh dear and just when I thought you couldn't get any more unprofessional. Perhaps you've had too much sun ?

I could also post up quotes from disco3 a la 10forcash and his issues with you and your support, but hey I dont need to.

You have made my mind up for me though, if asking you to clarify support for a product gets you so wound up then god knows what you would be like if it was ever needed. Don't think I'll take the risk.

all the best Mr. Green

Pom
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BBS SPY wrote:
Quote:
This thread has not had a (lack of information) its had lack of trust,

Never a truer word spoken Pete Thumbs Up

In support of Petes comment:
Sorry Bigmike but you have absolutely and unreservedly mis quoted me as i clearly said feck up not feck off. perhaps you would now explain your mis quoting me or otherwise accept that you have intentionally or otherwise mis quoted me and now owe me an apology i seriously doubt you have the guts to give.


Semantics. The intent was there either way with the use of the (totally unprofessional and unneccessary) term. You seem to think that as a supplier it's ok to behave in this way. What you fail to understand is that enthusiasts want people like you to succeed, and will forgive a lot. Support and a willingness to listen goes a heck of a long way in terms of selling any product, no more so in the market in which you're in. This is a public forum, searchable by anyone; prospective customer, current customer, you name it. Google will not be your friend in this regard. And I love how you get uppity over being called over your use of the term "feck" when you don't seem at all concerned about being labelled unprofessional Laughing

You have only done yourself and your business damage with your posts which are there for all to see. I wish you luck, since as far as future business is concerned based on your reactions and attitude, you'll need it.
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Thanks Pom Thumbs Up

BTW i have fixed that 2012 typo for ya.
Hope you are happy now too Mr. Green

Bigmike, there is no denying that my post with the feck comment was not overly professional and was borne out of exasperation on an off day, to which i apologize to all who felt offended, there were other Factors but i wont make excuses.
So i do not have a problem being called un professional when i am, no one is perfect and when i am wrong i have the guts to admit it and apologize.

However as everyone can see, as i said, i did not actually say Feck off at all and you mis quoted me to make it seem that my comments were worse than they were to which i understandably objected.

Anyway thanks for your most informative reply.
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There's been a lot of talk recently about Nanocom, but what about the BBS product? Does it give the code and the actual fault? Or do you have to have the DG special paper file with you to look up the fault? What are the main differences between the units?


Ok to get back onto the original post Whistle What are the main differences between the MSV-2 Extreme and the nanocom? Anybody own a msv-2 for a Puma? The reason I ask is that LR's diagnostics don't seem to show the same faults as the nanocom shows. Is this the same with the msv-2? I think it's time for me to purchase another diagnostic system to benchmark against the nanocom to see if they both read the same faults and show the same readings in the other modules. And does anybody have the Hawkeye for the Puma? As your input would be appreciated in helping me to decide. Thumbs Up

Also, please could the replies be about the tools and not issues with the owners/suppliers/support etc. Cheers Thumbs Up
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Hiya Brian

There has been a distinct lack of information from the previous owner of the Nanocom name as to what functionality the Nanocom actually provides, and my guys are only just figuring this kind of stuff out and providing the respective documentation.

Wherever is incorrect in the Nanocom, especially over the equivalent MSV-2 system, we do intend to address this as a matter of some priority, and we would certainly welcome any help or information that might aid us in our aims.
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Hi Colin, Ive been in touch with Pete about getting a MSV-2 for my Puma as I have been finding irregularities with some of the nanocoms functions and thought I would get a msv and a hawkeye to see what readings the three diagnostics show and dont show, also to try and find out just what is the best system for me. I would then give any feed back learnt through this forum to aid nanocom owners with their units. I did wonder if your guys would be finding the same things and I am really glad you are getting to the bottom of it Thumbs Up
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Brian.


What are the fault code differences you have found between the LR tool and the nanocom ?

Is the nano showing more faults or less ? Or is their more to it than that.


Pete
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