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BBSJK



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What was that then?
Sat in a queue on the way home from work today (in the Citreon Embarassed ) and a very nice CSW went past and pulled up at the lights. It had a private plate on it so what was it a TD5 or a TDCi?

I usually tell by the simple bonnet bulge but it had its back to me. So how many seats in the back? It was dark so that was a no go Rolling Eyes .

That has brought me to a (very sad) question. How can you tell the difference between a Puma and the older Landy's?

1) Bonnet Buldge
2) Seats sidways in older one and forward facing in the puma
3) fake vents in the front (but I guess you'd have noticed the bonnet by then!)
4) Any more ?

JK No the other left . . .
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Glynparry25



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Re: What was that then?
BBSJK wrote:

3) fake vents in the front (but I guess you'd have noticed the bonnet by then!)


Do you mean the ones on the headlamp surrounds?...... Td5 had them too.

Bit hit or miss but the Tdi/ Td5 had a sticker/badge behind the front wheel arch stating it is Tdi/Td5 where the TDCi has nothing.

Glyn Sheep
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110SEB



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By the Defender badge on the rear off side. The Puma's badge is onderlined. Others aren't i think.

By the rustiness of the rear x member!

By the four plates with two bolts in each that connect the rear x member to the body - on the Puma they're on the outside, others the inside or vida versa? Can't remember, it's Friday, i'm on my second bottle of Cotes du Rhone!

By the bulge of the vents on the dash if you can catch a glance inside.

By the number of rivets on each side - Puma 17, Td5 16. (Joking Whistle )
Post #53040 14th Jan 2011 9:07pm
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Glynparry25



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110SEB wrote:

By the four plates with two bolts in each that connect the rear x member to the body - on the Puma they're on the outside, others the inside or vida versa?


Changed to the inside with Td5 and same on Puma. Went from outside on the Tdi.

type the reg into the DVLA database Whistle

Glyn Sheep
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AndrewS



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If moving at the time of the spot open your window and listen, if its a Puma you will hear the wining of the diff.

If stationary at lights etc, if its Puma you will hear the clutch rattling. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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110SEB



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AndrewS wrote:
If moving at the time of the spot open your window and listen, if its a Puma you will hear the wining of the diff.

If stationary at lights etc, if its Puma you will hear the clutch rattling.


Laughing Rolling Eyes
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mick



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Andrew have you got anywhere with the engine tune yet .
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fekete



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AndrewS wrote:
If moving at the time of the spot open your window and listen, if its a Puma you will hear the wining of the diff.

If stationary at lights etc, if its Puma you will hear the clutch rattling.

Bow down Bow down spot on Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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AndrewS



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mick wrote:
Andrew have you got anywhere with the engine tune yet .


No Chap

Been very busy at work so not had chance to get J-Lo back to the dealers. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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MrFlips



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Re: What was that then?
Glynparry25 wrote:
BBSJK wrote:

3) fake vents in the front (but I guess you'd have noticed the bonnet by then!)


Do you mean the ones on the headlamp surrounds?...... Td5 had them too.

Glyn Sheep


No, I'm guessing fake air vents under the windscreen - the one thing I really miss! Peter
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BBSJK



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I was thinking of the fake vents under the windscreen. I was expecting the miss those but I can't really sy that I do.

I guess the Puma would be the one of the AA recovery truck then?

I played 'spot the difference' when I first got the puma with my 1986 90 and found the mirrors even had the same serial number of them!

JK No the other left . . .
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AndrewS



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They are not fake vents under the screen. I think I was told that the two embossed rectangular panels are there to retain strength in the bulk head. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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shazzy90



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the only way to spot the differance between all models tdi,td5 tdci is to check the tax disc if it is not a commercial,a tdci will pay £400 plus atdi and td5 will pay £220
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landy andy



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If you are that close you can look through the window, and see the difference.

The difference behind Tdi to Td5 are easy from behind due to the exhaust change, and even the fog/reverse light lights are an indicator (but later Tdi's also had the round ones)

But the difference Td5 to Tdci from behind......................

No can't think of any

Andy
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mse



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Rectangle Red Reflectors on the rear.

Generally the people going slowly looking in pain in the TD5...TDCI happy people getting somewhere in warmth silence and comfort Embarassed Rolling with laughter Whistle Mike
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