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| BCdefender Member Since: 26 Oct 2015 Location: Nanaimo Posts: 211   
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Logic prevails.
The new defender will not be hand made. It will be manufacture via the 220 + robots that make your too expensive to off-road Range Rover. Will you shun this new rounded body panel defender or embrace? Personally I'm not sure yet... I have a RR that my wife drives. I loath it for all its on board modernization and expense which came straight from the factory. My 1999 defender (the latest available in Canada) is packed full of things like 2015 heated puma seats, blue tooth stereo and phone, surround sound stereo (thank you CDN038) etc all of which I painstakingly installed myself. I love it for all the modernizations that I have have built and understand. Any thoughts? (Sunday night philosophy with a bottle of Felton Road Pinot) 1999 Defender 110 2003 P38 2007 RR SC "And that's why it needs to be celebrated, because when the Defender goes we'll have lost this pointer to where we came from, and we're really going to miss it." My build thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic47750.html |
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12th Sep 2016 3:39am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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There are few things that make the defender for me:
- rivets - roof gutter - flat glass - exterior hinges - 'tall' aspect - blocky form - lack of bling - series style handle retained on the rear It'd be pretty hard to convince me of a new 'Defender' without most of those. Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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12th Sep 2016 4:58am |
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| williamthedog Member Since: 29 Dec 2012 Location: south wales Posts: 3441 
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I will wait until its actually released before I make a comment.
It could be good or it could be bad  |
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12th Sep 2016 5:28am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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I will buy one of the first ones. Will be a SWB with lights behind the grille. Want to spec it with the canvas hood too. As an early one it will have the sliding windows and galv tub cappings. No air con and no radio please. Will get it Dinatrol'd and it will be a keeper
Sorry, just had a 1983 throwback moment.... 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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12th Sep 2016 7:11am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971  
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I'll shun it if it can't do what my current one can.
If it is more capable, more comfortable and lower maintenance then I won't shun it. I won't buy it because it says "Defender" or "Land Rover", I'll buy it if it's better. I won't shun it because it's "new", but I will if it's worse for being so. |
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12th Sep 2016 7:33am |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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Im going to buy a new one and shun the old one
 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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12th Sep 2016 8:07am |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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1983 or 1953? I will spec mine with a full length hood, interior and external mirrors, a recirculating heater/demister unit, rubber pedal pads and a spare wheel carrier on the bonnet. I hold a candle for the new Defender and will buy one if it is better. I fear it will be fashion over function though. |
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12th Sep 2016 8:31am |
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| 4ndy Member Since: 04 Jun 2016 Location: Cheshire Posts: 17 |
It won't be a Defender in the truest sense, but if it's a good 4x4 and an alternative for a D4 in its utility capabilities, I'll seriously consider it.
Saying that, it'll probably be the price tag that'll put me off  Not an owner... yet! |
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12th Sep 2016 8:37am |
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| LoveTheMud Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Weybridge Surrey & Pontefract West Yorkshire Posts: 411 
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Has the delivery date slipped further back to 2019 now though? So We are unlikely to even see the test subject on the road in order to give a more informed decision...
That said, I will buy one, but its unlikely to be one of the first batch as new cars always have major bugs  |
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12th Sep 2016 8:40am |
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| Iggle piggle Member Since: 10 Sep 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 378 
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First batch! 33 years couldn't sort the last batch out!  |
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12th Sep 2016 8:53am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17383 
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I will shun it if it is not what I want.
If it is what I want, then I won't shun it. Do I expect it to be what I want? No, I think it is extremely unlikely that it will be anything like I want, but I still hold out a small hope that I will be pleasantly surprised. Last edited by blackwolf on 12th Sep 2016 10:45am. Edited 1 time in total |
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12th Sep 2016 9:24am |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3784  
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Personally, I don't see how anyone can accurately, & truthfully, answer this question, until they know what the "New" Defender will be.
Pickles. |
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12th Sep 2016 10:11am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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No, im looking forward to it - it will be awesome
Mike |
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12th Sep 2016 11:43am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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I agree with Pickles
Jury's Out...But If Too Expensive Too Complicated Look don't Touch design ethos Tougher version of a current Land Rover product range Not 'Platform' for Multi Use Mass Appeal not Individualistic (I accept that LR will make if a genuine Off Road Vehicle) then probably yes But if... Simple (enough) Practical Adaptable All Terrain All Weather Increased Comfort Increased Safety and here's the big one...manages to pull off the trick of carrying forward the 'Defender' overall design aesthetic that presents the replacement Defender as the natural 'evolution' of the marque...were it would have been if subjected to overall continual improvement (beyond the 'modest' mechanical upgrades it did received)... then I'm interested...(If its still a Defender...Not just in name) The one that wont work for me and will be in 'conflict' with the aims of LR is... I don't want to drive a wide (let alone mass) appeal vehicle. It would be very easy to get this wrong...  Click image to enlarge SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html Last edited by X4SKP on 12th Sep 2016 12:34pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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12th Sep 2016 11:52am |
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