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jieming



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
Nasty feeling it was a Land Rover Experience vehicle
Bought my second hand Defender 110 CSW from Harwoods in Edenbridge last year, and whilst walking around the vehicle I asked if there was anything in the car's history I should be aware of. To which the response was "No No No"

Then recently I was talking to a Harwoods mechanic about the amount of mud in the seat base unit and he asked if my truck was silver, to which I responded "why yes it is". "Ah right, that'll be an Land Rover Experience vehicle then" was his response.

I've since asked Harwoods for the history to find out if it was, but should I be concerned? I know it's made for playing off road, but I've done driving days is the past and I ragged the balls off the cars being used!

Should I push Harwoods or just move on?
Post #569933 10th Oct 2016 8:01pm
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Balvaig



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Scotland 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey
Just been on the free Experience day. I was told that all recent Landrover experience vehicles come direct from the factory in white wherever they are in the country. Check the V5 - this might show the first owner.
Post #569936 10th Oct 2016 8:11pm
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jieming



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
There's some in white and others in silver.
Post #569939 10th Oct 2016 8:17pm
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jomara



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Scotland 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I bought a silver 110 XS SW from a dealer, started getting all kinds of whirring and grinding noises from the drivetrain, closer inspection revealed the diffs and transfer box were full of very fine silt and metal filings. A candid conversation with the general manager and I had a brilliant deal on the black demo which was on their forecourt. 2014 110 2.2TDCi XS Station wagon
1971 Bowler Tomcat 88 4.2 V8 Auto
2022 110 D250 XS Edition - Gone
2024 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE
Post #569952 10th Oct 2016 9:04pm
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Tiger



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
going round an off road course all day including wading and being driven like a rental

what could go wrong...

get shut
Post #569978 10th Oct 2016 11:12pm
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Tiger



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Shocked
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
On a plus side it will of had a lot of money spent on servicing as it will of all been done at a dealer. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #569986 11th Oct 2016 5:33am
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pjb



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What like stamp the book do an oil & filter change & give it a wash Whistle 2020 P300 HSE
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Re: Nasty feeling it was a Land Rover Experience vehicle
jieming wrote:
......but I've done driving days is the past and I ragged the balls off the cars being used!


'Karma' is what I call it. Laughing

I would base the worry on whether you think you got a good deal or whether it was sold under false pretences? It being used as it was is that deemed as 'Something you 'should' have really been made aware of' when you asked the question?

Are you are worried based on your own driving? Not sure how well supervised the 'experience' days are or whether they have free-reign to rag the ball off?

I would say it's a bit late considering nearly a year has passed as well. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Silver or white ones and normally reg beginning with O.

Hi low box gets a work out but probably means it works better than one that's always in high. Unless somethings up with it, it was doing a job it was designed for. They only ever did 5k and then swapped out. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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Huttopia



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Think of it like a G4......
Post #569997 11th Oct 2016 6:52am
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JJ



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United Kingdom 1987 Defender 110 V8 Petrol CSW Corris Grey
It would be prudent to change all the oils in every box , just in case it has been wading through silt everyday. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
So unless the vehicle has regularly been waded in crud that is deeper than the breather height (which is unlikely given how carefully the LRE courses are engineered for effect), why on earth would "every box" contain silt? They're sealed to keep the oil in, at least on the whole, and the dirt out. The vehicle has been doing what it is designed to do.

I would probably thoroughly flush the chassis and box sections to get any remaining mud out, though.

Which would you rather buy, an ex-LRE vehicle with a history of supervised usage, dealer servicing, and probably low mileage, or a totally unknown quantity which could have been ragged mercilessly and not serviced, then cleaned up for the forecourt? Myself, I'd take the LRE vehicle anytime.


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Post #570002 11th Oct 2016 7:29am
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jieming



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zermatt Silver
I'm liking the comments a lot and certainly feel a bit more chilled about it. Only concern is that the clutch feels like it's on it's way out but by the sounds of things that's just as common for cars that have been pampered. But we won't get into that subject. I'll let you know what harwoods have to say and meanwhile I'll keep on digging the clay out.
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