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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279  
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Paint matched paint kit via eBay in aerosol format. Not cheap but only a small job.
As your repair is mainly on the edge it wouldn't be too difficult to blend. It's large areas or panels you are best off spraying the whole thing. |
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30th Aug 2016 3:11pm |
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| srod Member Since: 20 Mar 2015 Location: Argyll Posts: 190 |
Cheers
So something like in the link below, a basecoat with laquer? The plan being to remove rust back to bare metal, and spray this this on? Do I need a primer also? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aerosol-Spray-Ca...NXe2fXdGuw |
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30th Aug 2016 3:20pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
Rust Converter for light surface rust and etch primer spray for bare metal priming
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30th Aug 2016 3:27pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279
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Yep, just like that. And as the above comment too.
You may find on top of the etch you might want a hi build primer too to sand perfectly smooth with 600 wet and dry paper. Use it dry in this instance. I used a company called Scratch doctor for mine on eBay in Upol cans with Upol lacquer. Computer colour matched, I'm not sure if they'd do your colour code though? It doesn't go very far so you'll probably need 2 or ideally three cans of base coat. 3M paint mask disposable, 3258 I think it is or similar. Then some plastic masking sheeting, I'd mask the whole Ddefender to protect it from overspray. (Only cheap this stuff just like ultra thin polythene if whatever it's called) plastic dust sheet pretty much. And some blue 3m masking tape. Then you should be good to go, Upol panel wipe would also be a good idea. All of these things are available on eBay, and as always use PPE I.e. Mask, disposable gloves, disposable overall etc and in good ventilation but protected from any contamination. Keep it as clean as you possibly can.  Last edited by custom90 on 30th Aug 2016 9:08pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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30th Aug 2016 4:42pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2079 
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Really sound advice Steve - particularly the blue 3M masking tape
Also really important to clean the area to remove any trace of silicones or contaminants. Don't use car wash products! Steve, do you flatten or blend in the base coat with the 600 paper before applying the lacquer? Also do you do anything to the laquer in terms of blending into the surroundings e.g. Cutting compound? Panel wipes are a god send |
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30th Aug 2016 9:01pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279
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Scrabble - I wouldn't sand metallic at all, solid colours you can but I wouldn't recommend it.
Metallics are very much a one shot job, mess it up and it'll be rub down and spray again. Blending the two you really want the clear to over run the area that the base was sprayed for obvious reasons. You can of course flat. (Carefully and very lightly!) the clear coat after about 6 weeks, then lightly cut with Farecla G10 or G12 and the you can polish and wax. Little point in touching it before 6weeks or month if it's good warm weather as you can cut it and wax at the same time then. Paint shops can shorten the time by cooking the paint as they do professionally but for us it's just a matter of time. When spraying, don't mask the edge of what you are painting or you will see it. Try and blend it lightly off. If it's a really small area and the spray pattern is too large then you can use a card with a hole cut in it to reduce the spray pattern. On small panels or areas you can get an excellent finish with rattle cans, spray guns are better for large areas though. I haven't used a compressor system though with professional guns, as for that amount of paint etc it's best left to a paint shop as the fumes and large amounts of particulates are really really bad for you. Got to be careful with panel wipe too, both for flammability. (Static on plastic parts) and it's solvent fume. I've used and have got Upol fast wipe panel wipe in a 5L container, I use that with packs of brand new microfibre cloths. (Make sure they are free of fibres and lint free, then you know combined with the wipe it's contaminant free.) It'll have Silicones right off if present, and is safe for cured paints too. So if you used it on a clear coat it wouldn't take it off. £20 I think. When I've done home painting, jist is do the paining you want to do and leave ASAP to reduce exposure. Right now the weather is prefect natural temp 18 - 25 Degrees.
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30th Aug 2016 9:24pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2079
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Spot on Steve - really helpful. All makes sense
I'm going to attend to a couple of inch square defects in inconspicuous places over the coming months. I shall keep you posted. I have the genuine Land Rover rattle cans which have worked well in the past. I sand with 600 grade as you do, etch prime, and then flat off slightly. Base coat then lacquer. In fairness, I think the key is to keep the surface scrupulously clean, and to take your time. That said, my results to date tend to be just ok - not great. Practice makes perfect Steve! Thanks for your advice
Cheers, Will |
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30th Aug 2016 9:38pm |
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| foxyred Member Since: 16 Jul 2016 Location: Nottingham Posts: 227  
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Smart repair job should be less than £120 for a pro to do
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30th Aug 2016 9:42pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279
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Certainly is practice, it isn't easy.
Best to practice really with cheaper water based paint that aresolid gloss colours for bits etc. Metallic can cost you dear with mistakes but with rattle cans it won't break the bank. Here is a few products I use which people may find useful. Gloves: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251124416401?_tr...EBIDX%3AIT Disposable overall: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Disposable-Cover...W9AdOBBHBw 3M 4251 respirator / mask: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-4251-06941-Sp...xy63FS5oIb 3M 3434 blue tape, multi sizes: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=3m+...p;_sacat=0 The Scratch Doctor Upol paint kits: http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/thescratchdoctor?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 Upol 5L fast panel wipe: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/U-pol-System-20-...SwWTRWugyY Microfibre cloths: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371427295920 |
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30th Aug 2016 9:52pm |
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| Andy80 Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Essex Posts: 490 
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Wow guys you love your PPE!!
 ... Working towards Carry on camping! |
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31st Aug 2016 7:13am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279
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Well clear coat does burn the skin and many paints are known to be carcinogenic, the least exposure you have the better..
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31st Aug 2016 8:35am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2079
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Thanks for pointing me in the direction of TheScratchDoctor Steve
Good range of quality products. Just enquired about a colour match in the Upol 2 can pack. Also just noticed they are only down the road! |
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31st Aug 2016 6:38pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20279
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Welcome.
The cans have a spray gun fan pattern too, not circular thus you can do a better job.
If your close they might let you collect / purchase 'in-house.' |
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31st Aug 2016 7:42pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2079
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Steve, TheScratchDoctor service was absolutely excellent. Faultless.
I can't recommend them highly enough - price, quality and service. http://www.thescratchdoctor.co.uk/ Cheers Will |
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12th Sep 2016 1:36pm |
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