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agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

MY08 nut and bolt restoration - your thoughts?

2008 Puma 110 Station wagon, I'm third owner.

Fair shape when I got it, a few things to attend to but 95% of that all done now - mostly the typical mechanical/transmission stuff of a vehicle at 65,000mi. It's now running sweet with a BAS 150 remap.

Anyway so the time spent pulling it apart and putting it back together again has got me hooked on well, I guess, pulling it apart and putting it back together again.

Latest thoughts are pretty intrusive:

- Chassis clean up and possible galvanise
- Panel ding clean up and repaint to my own choice
- Roll cage build and install (including internal cross brace member/dog cage)

When it's a apart I may as well do some other things like winch, external lighting, a good clean up of any hints of corrosion (bolt heads, foot wells/leaks etc), and a check all other usual suspects. Maybe going intercooler and pushing it to 170BHP, but it's torque I'm really interested in

I'll be doing the work myself (farming away only critical parts like the galvanising, mandrel pipe bending and the paint if need be).

Lots of discussion points:

Space, time and equipment requirements.
I love the car and at the moment I'm pretty committed to keeping it around but thinking purely economically about the current situation (no new defenders being made) is it 'worth it' in terms of on-sell value? (At the very least, the milage isn't increasing while it's off the road)
What colour ?

Motivation ... has anyone tried similar and ended up with a half ton of indiscriminate parts they cant remember goes where?
How to properly decommission an engine - fuel and electrics ?
Is it worth going into the engine itself?
If it's going to be that exposed what else would be worth reconditioning while it's easy (see 'usual suspects' above)
Estimates on $$$ ? I'm certainly not flush with cash, but time and space I can possibly muster.

Will mention I'm an engineer and reasonably practical which I think should count.

Anyhoo, so a nut and bolt 'restoration' on a 2008 vehicle - sounds wrong yeah?

Your thoughts? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

28th Aug 2016 6:51am

mikeh501

Member Since: 07 Jan 2013
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1142

Im in the process of doing a rebuild on my 1994 90. I think this is year 2 now lol. Mine is however been rebuilt to a different spec than the original which is bringing some new challenges! A few thoughts since starting my own...

* you will need quite a bit space to put panels and parts of the vehicle.
* Your going to need lots of tools, and a decent engine hoist for the heavy bits.
* you will need a good friend who can help with some of the heavy or large bits.
* decide whether your going to strip to a bare chassis, this is a big job, and the costs will rocket. Simply because there is more opportunity for "whilst X is off, id better replace it with a new one (or an upgraded one)".
* Id say the bulk of the work is in the chassis, suspension, axles, engine & transmission and bulkhead dressing/wiring. The body is much quicker/easier.
* Factor in lots of time spent cleaning, prepping, painting various bits of bracketery etc. Takes an age. Also an opportunity to galv various bits which are plain steel originally.
* Get friendly with a land rover parts outlet. Guess that will be even more important given your location? I needed parts all the time, and plenty of times id forgotten a bit and needed to get something id missed. This should be easier on a puma, but has been a nightmare on my build given its non standard.
* Ive not go to paint on mine, but to do the job properly - especially with a colour change; it will be expensive. In addition, most painters hate waxoyl type products so the bits will need to be properly clean.
* Get a whole load of stainless steel bolts, washers and nylocs before you start in various lengths and sizes. You need A4-70 for anything not load bearing. Either go A4-80 for load bearing or just go for the proper LR bolt. I used the original LR parts for some of the safety critical stuff (some suspension, calipers, stub axles etc)

oh and last bit.... it will be off the road for longer than you think. dont rush it, just because you need it on the road. The rebuild experience itself is part of the fun.

Enjoy... anyone can do it.

28th Aug 2016 11:34am

couplands

Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Peak District & Cornwall
Posts: 1826

These guys documented the rebuild of a 90 in a series of YouTube videos , worth a watch to see how they did it.
http://funrover.com/featured/land-rover-defender-tribute-build/

Plus if you haven't see " A 4x4 is Born" by Mark Evans, have a look. A YouTube copy is here (well most of it) &list=PLIiqQSKmq49FkZhI4PRfajOFV3wDHkWee

cheers

simon

28th Aug 2016 12:33pm

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