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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804   
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Has anyone used this stuff? Given how hot Defs get, maybe something to think about?
Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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16th Aug 2016 9:50pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Doesn't look cheap. A one gallon tub is approx £60, plus a little more for the applicator if required. Their website says a 110SW would need two gallons. So a couple of hundred quid all in. Given how effective it is, I'd say it's worth it. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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16th Aug 2016 10:14pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Gren, are you going to be our test case? Keep us posted.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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17th Aug 2016 5:09am |
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| Ade90 Member Since: 30 May 2014 Location: Birmingham Posts: 130 
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There was a trader at Billing a few years ago promoting this coating to Landy restorers. He had a demo Landy with the bulkhead and underside bonnet treated.
The most impressive aspect was actually the noise reduction. It may cost a few quid, but you would save money by having to use less sound proofing materials. I was very tempted, but a little short on cash at the time of my rebuild to be able to justify the expense to the boss  Fixing Land Rovers for over 25 years..........and making excuses to the wife for almost as long 
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17th Aug 2016 5:25am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Actually Eric, I think I might. Will let you all know if I go for it... Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 7:09am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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I suppose the only question, is how supple it is given how much Defs flex. Will contact them today... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 7:12am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Interesting. Did he say/show how easy it was to apply? It'll be a DIY. I'd be looking at it more from the POV of heat retention/loss. I just want the lid of the DC to be as insulated and warm as possible, given the winter temps here. My old 110 was cold throughout the winter season, albeit entirely un-treated. Hopefully the Insulator 6 will do the job! Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 7:15am |
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| Ade90 Member Since: 30 May 2014 Location: Birmingham Posts: 130
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The chap explained he was looking at promoting it to restorers as for best results you need to have the Landy stripped back.
Application looks to be quite straight forward and the same as products like Raptor/load liners. So plenty of masking off to avoid over spray. Have a look at Fixing Land Rovers for over 25 years..........and making excuses to the wife for almost as long
1984 110 V8 - Gone, but not forgotten.... |
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17th Aug 2016 8:54am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Thanks Ade.
Don't you just love American videos.... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 9:08am |
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| Essexlandy Member Since: 28 Mar 2016 Location: Essex Posts: 8 
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according to US hot rod forums it is little more than home acrylic paint mixed with micro ballons, the heat one being 80% micro to paint. the sound one being 20% micro to paint.
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17th Aug 2016 12:26pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1833 
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Do they have any stockists in Europe? Or preferably the UK 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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17th Aug 2016 12:35pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Begs the question whether something like this would be just as effective, but cheaper and easier to apply? https://www.promain.co.uk/roof-paints-prim...o-alu.html Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 4:21pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804
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Best I can find: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lizard-Skin-1303...1141204041 Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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17th Aug 2016 4:27pm |
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| Essexlandy Member Since: 28 Mar 2016 Location: Essex Posts: 8
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The glass micro ballons are the secret, in the 80% mix they absorb the heat as they are hollow. in the 20% mix the paint has the elastic properties to absorb the sound waves. the paint is just the carrier for the micro ballons. Thats why it cleans up with water and soap as the paint is now water based. Have a read on US hot rod forums there is loads of information about it. |
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17th Aug 2016 5:20pm |
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