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gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5112

2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green

Quote:
‘We are all equal but some are more equal than others’,

Is a self-contradictory or a logically improper conclusion and is classed as a dangerous paradox. Sadly we are not all born equal and that’s a fact and it is the way of the world, on the other hand it empowers some to become more equal, the trick is not to accept the absurdity that some are more equal than others and so enabling some to become more equal than each and every one.

For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

7th Jul 2016 3:11pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3789

I think everyone needs to move on.

One flick of a switch from Martin and NONE of us will have a forum to log on to. We will see something like this....

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I for one think its a brilliant forum as a fairly new owner the advice and friendly nature of people I have never met is great. Lets keep it that way and move on.

7th Jul 2016 3:15pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6316

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

just in time before it's shut down.

7th Jul 2016 3:17pm

Vintagepaul

Member Since: 20 Jan 2015
Location: Rye, East Sussex
Posts: 482

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black

gilarion wrote:
Quote:
‘We are all equal but some are more equal than others’,
Is a self-contradictory or a logically improper conclusion and is classed as a dangerous paradox. Sadly we are not all born equal and that’s a fact and it is the way of the world, on the other hand it empowers some to become more equal, the trick is not to accept the absurdity that some are more equal than others and so enabling some to become more equal than each and every one.

That's the best post I've read in ages, I don't know what it means but it made me laugh!

2015 Defender 90XS HT

7th Jul 2016 3:18pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

I didn't understand it either

This is what I meant:

A proclamation by the pigs who control the government in the novel Animal Farm, by George Orwell.

The sentence is a comment on the hypocrisy of governments that proclaim the absolute equality of their citizens but give power and privileges to a small elite.

(Not my explanation - borrowed from Google)

7th Jul 2016 3:20pm

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Stacey007 wrote:
I think everyone needs to move on.

One flick of a switch from Martin and NONE of us will have a forum to log on to. We will see something like this....

Click image to enlarge

I for one think its a brilliant forum as a fairly new owner the advice and friendly nature of people I have never met is great. Lets keep it that way and move on.

Well that's not quite true [re. underlined comment]. There are numerous other Land Rover based forums out there with various methods of funding and policies. I should know as I have been, and continue to be involved with the running of one or two of them over quite a few years.

Sometimes comments from people can cause ripples that can extend much wider than the forum concerned and invade personal and commercial interests. Very often a moderator / admin will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. the FACT is any kind of moderating action will invariably result in ripples on the surface that particular forums pond and often result in umpteen meta discussions where people feel they have to chip in with an opinion [me included].

Real life is short and the vast majority of people mean well but remember - the real / intended emotions behind the text can so easily be misconstrued. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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7th Jul 2016 3:38pm

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6633

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Go Beyond wrote:
It is a fact as Nitram17's banning and numerous others who have pm'd me but wish to remain anonymous attest to that if you cross / criticise / disagree with Brendan then you will be warned off by Martin.

Correct - but replace "Brendan" with any other member's name and the exact same applies.

I have said time and again that criticism is fine. Being obnoxious is not. There is a difference.

The reporting system is there for all to use - triangle top right of every post. It doesn't exist for just one person. And I deal with reports equally.

This was something I was supposed to be sorting out with Nitram17 in private and could have been resolved by now.

Instead it gets dragged into the public arena, 4 pages so far, as part of the chip on your shoulder about Brendan.

Aren't you better than all of this?

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

7th Jul 2016 4:46pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6316

I've been warned before by Martin and all I can say is he seems to be very reasonable.

good job Martin.

(I can't comment on the particulars of this incidence but from what I've seen personally Martin seems very fair and reasonable)

....going back to the thread that I got warned on.......

7th Jul 2016 4:52pm

steve E

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Tenby
Posts: 2073

I've also had a warning from Martin after another member wound me up and have to say that he dealt with it in totally the correct manner and I feel that the rules do indeed apply to all.

7th Jul 2016 5:11pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7908

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

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7th Jul 2016 5:22pm

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

I've reported Martins post to Martin

7th Jul 2016 5:42pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5112

You like to live dangerously then. That’s am immediate ban for you…

Personally it all boils down to this Martin is the boss his rules are his rules adhere and no one has to worry. Simples as Sergei and Aleksandr would say.

For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1

7th Jul 2016 6:29pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20578

If you've nothing good to say, don't say it at all is my motto.

That theory can get you out of many a situation believe you me.

7th Jul 2016 9:54pm

mick

Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 2109

2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red

^^^ yup and if you don't like how the forums run you can always feck off to a knuckle daggers forum.

7th Jul 2016 10:02pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3787

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

There's no need to LOCK anything,...that way we all suffer.
What needs to be remembered is that a forum is not like speaking face to face,...things can come across not quite the way you intended, your comment becomes misconstrued, someone doesn't like it, then it's "tit for tat" etc, & so it goes on.
So, the secret is, make sure that your comments are NOT too aggressive, and could not be construed as such. If ya wanna "have a go", send a pm.
IMHO Martin does a SUPERB job running this site, and let me tell you, He is FAR more tolerant, than other "precious" mods I've come across.
So Martin, all the way from Aussie, thanks for the best Defender Forum on the planet. Pickles.
NB: Ain't telling anyone "how to suck eggs". Being from Aussie, I don't know any of you guys personally,...just giving my opinion.

7th Jul 2016 10:07pm

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