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stanley



Member Since: 18 Sep 2009
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The Somme 100
100 years ago tomorrow at 0728, the big push started and The Battle of The Somme started, 141 day campaign the saw almost 20,000 British Empire troops lost their lives in the first 24 hours







Lest We Forget
Post #544925 30th Jun 2016 8:12pm
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ajac8



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Location: In the middle
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I always get a real sense of humility when complete strangers stand together in total respect and silence. Long may it continue. Wannabe Defender Owner - on the hunt.

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Post #544940 30th Jun 2016 8:44pm
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steventheplumber



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Have my whistle ready, we will remember.
Post #544963 30th Jun 2016 10:05pm
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gilarion



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MY GRANDAD, A BRAVE MAN, Joe Mitchell, his regiment was the Lancashire lads; he joined aged 17, gassed by pineapple gas on the Somme, that burnt his lungs out. He survived and lived until he was 53, but always an invalid. I was six weeks old when he died and I never met him, I wished I had, my dad said he was a smashing bloke, brave and full of hope. What is it about war, not for virtuous mankind and not to stop suffering and that is for sure For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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Post #544973 1st Jul 2016 12:28am
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lambert.the.farmer



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England 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Rutland Red
War is in our nature, if there were only two humans left with half the planet each they would still find a way to fight over the same square foot of ground, why else do we have to teach children to share? Not saying it is good or desirable just inevitable. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
Post #544975 1st Jul 2016 4:22am
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ken



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Would be immensely respectful not to post 07:28 to 07:30 Thumbs Up
Post #544981 1st Jul 2016 5:27am
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ken



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Post #544996 1st Jul 2016 6:30am
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Happyoldgit



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We will remember them. Steve.
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Post #545016 1st Jul 2016 8:18am
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Browny90



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I was supposed to be at he main event in the Somme today, but had to pull out yesterday Sad

we have a 20 week old baby, but they wouldn't let us take him to the event, my wife is feeding him and struggled to express milk. the original plan was to leave him at the hotel with the mother in law while we went to the event, obviously wasn't to be which is why I'm gutted sat at my desk in Wolverhampton Crying or Very sad

I was really disappointed that we couldn't take the baby, their reason was lack of facilities, which is fair enough I suppose, but these events should be for young people to help remember.

My wife and I are both Reservist soldiers so our kids don't have a choice but to remember, I worry that one day people will forget.. its a sad thing, but remembrance parades get smaller and smaller every year, when they should be getting bigger, a lot of young people don't care (i'm not exactly old at 31) but I've only missed 1 remembrance parade since I was born, as my granddad used to take me, the one I missed was because I was in Iraq and I was busy in the workshop getting Snatches ready for a patrol..

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Post #545023 1st Jul 2016 9:00am
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blackwolf



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I doubt people will forget, but it is inevitable that as time passes people will lose the feeling of relevance to the event being commemorated.

We no longer have any WW1 veterans amongst us, and probably very few who lived through the war (and they were probably too young to pay much attention at the time). However we still have many, many people who knew veterans, lost the precediing generation of menfolk, or who lived with and remember vividly the consequences of the war. These poeple will never forget.

As the numbers of these people diminish, the immediacy and relevance will tend to be lost.

I know what happened at Waterloo, Trafalgar, etc, but to me they are distant history and it is hard to empathise with the suffering. I know what happened at the Somme, Ypres, Jutland, etc, and with these I can connect very strongly. Why? Hard to explain, except as above.

To the current generation of youngsters, WW1 is probably distant history. We need to make them understand why it is important not to forget.

If nothing else, we need to remember why it is important that history is taught in schools, now and forever, however 'untrendy' it may be. Without our history we have nothing.
Post #545028 1st Jul 2016 9:28am
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gabe3105



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A poignant poem written by a soldier in the days before the Somme began (Lt WN Hodgson). He died within the first hour of the battle

By all the glories of the day
And the cool evening's benison
By that last sunset touch that lay
Upon the hills when day was done,
By beauty lavishly outpoured
And blessings carelessly received,
By all the days that I have lived
Make me a soldier, Lord.

By all of all man's hopes and fears
And all the wonders poets sing,
The laughter of unclouded years,
And every sad and lovely thing;
By the romantic ages stored
With high endeavour that was his,
By all his mad catastrophes
Make me a man, O Lord.

I, that on my familiar hill
Saw with uncomprehending eyes
A hundred of thy sunsets spill
Their fresh and sanguine sacrifice,
Ere the sun swings his noonday sword
Must say good-bye to all of this; -
By all delights that I shall miss,
Help me to die, O Lord.

RIP to them all
Post #545032 1st Jul 2016 9:53am
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jeffersj



Member Since: 23 Jan 2015
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Nice to see the posts!

Can I point you all to the Imperial War Museum's website" Lives of The First World War". This site will be maintained for posterity and can be accessed by anyone to add details and stories about their relatives who were killed. The site also allows search of the millions of records held of the men who died and new stories are bing found every day.

My Grandfather James Miller was killed at the Battle of Bellewaarde near Ypres on 15 June 1915 despite serving as a regular soldier with the 1st Northumberland Fusiliers from 1900-1907 going through 2 Boer wars, India, Australia and Mauritius.

I am a volunteer with Preston Remembers, a project to research those 2000 plus men of Preston who were killed during the FWW and commemorated on the Harris Museum Roll of Honour.

Browny- nice to see you and your wife are reservists. I did 23 years with the TA in Transport regiments thus my love of all things Land Rover. Jeff
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Post #545035 1st Jul 2016 10:07am
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leeds



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It always makes me feel humble wandering around the various military cemeteries scattered not only around Europe but around the world. They are incredibly well looked after and some are extremely peaceful and beautiful as well.

WW1 sites have those poignant words 'Here lies a soldier known only unto God'

Let us remember also that it was not only British, French and German soldiers who died in WW1. Both sides had normal soldiers fighting from the far corners of their respective empires.


Brendan
Post #545068 1st Jul 2016 2:14pm
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Grenadier



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I've served, I've fought and yet each day I grow older I become more and more saddened by the reckless, egoistical desire of a few that destroys the lives of so many. They didn't need to be asked, they understood what was at stake and that the ultimate sacrifice might be required. Yet in their thousands they stepped up and answered that call of duty. But what they saw, how they suffered as volunteers by any servicman's experience was courageous beyond belief.

So very very sad, so very very unnecessary. In the words of Siegfried Sassoon 'Do you ever stop to ask, ‘Is it all going to happen again?’'

No fallen or injured serviceman or woman then or now, should ever be forgotten.


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Post #545197 1st Jul 2016 10:01pm
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nitram17



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I echo your sentiments Grenadeir .... Thumbs Up
Post #545234 2nd Jul 2016 12:56am
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