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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582  
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Hardly surprising comment IMO So where will they get their pennies from?
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24th Jan 2018 11:27pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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I am a retired pensioner driving on country roads outside peak hours.
Probably means they will take my eyes out ! 
As with low emission cars, as soon as electric vehicles etc etc become popular the rates will start to rapidly increase  1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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24th Jan 2018 11:48pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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What he said! ^^^^
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25th Jan 2018 8:18am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2533 
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I agree with Bluest, it's not just road funding that will change. Have you asked yourself why the Govt. is keen to get everyone on smart meters by 2020? No, it's not so you can see how much electricity you are using it's so the utility companies can charge different rates depending on when you are consuming electricity. You'll pay more at peak times and at times of high demand. Oh and don't forget you'll be using more electricity when you get rid of your petrol and diesel cars.
If demand for electricity generation is now running at 96% how are they going to cope with millions of electric cars? Defender 90XS SW Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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25th Jan 2018 8:27am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4230 
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You’ll hear phrase “demand management” increasingly over next few years, in relation to these things.
I’m going to sound like a real doom monger here (I’m not honest!), but I do think this country passed peak quality of life for its residents a few years ago. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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25th Jan 2018 8:49am |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1029 
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The taxes that are most directly linked to motoring are Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) and Fuel Duty. Latest figures show that VED generated around £6 billion in 2015, down 1 per cent from 2014 and Fuel Duty about £27 billion. Revenue from Fuel Duty more than tripled between 1987 and 2010 but has remained at £27 billion since then.
In addition to specific road user taxes, some transport expenditure is liable to VAT. In 2012, for private households, a total of £12.2 billion in VAT was raised through motorists buying, running and using their vehicles. (VAT on vehicle purchases raised £3.84 billion; VAT on fuel raised £5.64 billion; and £2.72 billion of VAT was also raised through road users buying other motoring-related goods and services). "RAC website" Eye watering numbers from us poor sods, Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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25th Jan 2018 12:22pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17598 
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So in total £45.2 billion tax income from motorists!
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25th Jan 2018 2:25pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Just about enough to give to Europe
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25th Jan 2018 3:02pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I have solar panels on my roof - inherited from a previous owner - and would like to fit batteries to store 100% of the generation but the econonics aren't there yet. When they are then peak demand charging should not be an issue hopefully. I'm confused with Smart meters as I had a generation 1 version fitted to a previous house. Changed supplier and new supplier said they could not get readings from it. Anyway, supplier came and fitted a generation 2 type a couple of years ago and said this one would not have the same issue again. I swapped suppliers and yes, new supplier could not make use of the new smart meter. There really is something odd going on with the roll out of these things. |
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25th Jan 2018 4:15pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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The only smart thing about it is the maker and his profits, We paid for the incompetence of Smart meter 1 , so guess who is paying for the 2nd version.
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25th Jan 2018 4:21pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17598
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I had an issue with my smart meter too. After about a year of nagging from the energy supplier, I finally allowed them to fit one. My electricity bill has nearly doubled since, even though my usage hasn't changed at all.
I can only conclude that the bearings were stiff in the old, whirly-dial, meter, and I was getting more juice than I was being charged for! Whatever the reason, I now wish I hadn't allowed them on my property. |
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25th Jan 2018 4:39pm |
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| HK07 Member Since: 15 Dec 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 749  
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Just to put this in perspective, I heard a commentator on the radio a while back say that to get an understanding of a billion pounds we need to understand that a billion days ago nothing walked upright on this planet. Yet these politicians band around figures like a billion here, a couple of billion there, 20 billion here, as if it were pocket change. It certainly caught my attention and made me think. I hope I am alive for the revolution!!! 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned. 1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned. 1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned. |
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25th Jan 2018 6:27pm |
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| DonH2000 Member Since: 12 Jan 2015 Location: North Kent Posts: 551
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Some 14 years or so ago John 'Puncher' Prescot wanted to introduce road pricing and on the scale of charges proposed at the time I would have had to give up work because he wanted to charge extra for 'peak' time (7am-9am and 5pm-7pm) and also extra charges for using Motorways.
My 90 mile round trip to work would have cost me, at the prices quoted at the time, £80.00 per day!!!! I only earned £100 per day so that would not have worked. And no, there was no train or bus service as an alternative. So you see it is a stoopid idea. Cheers Don. |
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26th Jan 2018 10:02am |
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