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| Darcy Fairfax Member Since: 05 Oct 2014 Location: London Posts: 721   
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A potential huge move for Norway with the removal of diesel and petrol engines off the roads in the next ten years.....
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7th Jun 2016 8:51am |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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I'm wondering... Norway is quite big. Lots of places with very few people. Winters can be very cold. How on earth is this going to work.
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7th Jun 2016 10:41am |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785  
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Diesel it is then
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7th Jun 2016 11:05am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2751
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You've got this wrong I think... They want to ban the sale of diesel/petrol cars.
Presumably some commercials will be exempt, and it won't apply to already bought cars. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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7th Jun 2016 11:58am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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Not going to lie but I am a little disappointed in Norway
I wander if we will still be allowed to visit in our Landys Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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7th Jun 2016 12:01pm |
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| Darcy Fairfax Member Since: 05 Oct 2014 Location: London Posts: 721
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I hope so. But if this is the case, I would imagine the next step would be to phase out existing petrols and diesels. Taxing them to the hilt to make them too costly to run perhaps? |
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7th Jun 2016 12:48pm |
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| Romadog Member Since: 07 Jul 2011 Location: Powys Posts: 1749 |
Will that include snowmobiles too ??!!!
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7th Jun 2016 5:50pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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Whilst I can understand how you could create a "green" electricity grid, I can't see how you could get rid of internal combustion engined road vehicles. Unless they are to install charging points *all over* what is an already sparsely populated country, I just don't see how it would work. Electric cars in current production are fine for short trips and maybe commuting, but not up to the task of long-distance travel undertaken by lorries for example, they just don't have the range, and to install charging facilities all over the place will mean digging up the environment they aim to protect and at the same time massively increase the demands on the electricity grid. That's an electricity grid that often cannot be repaired due to weather conditions...I wonder how an electric linesmans van would cope in such circumstances...
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7th Jun 2016 6:30pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279
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Imagine how future photos of Norwegian landscape would look.
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7th Jun 2016 6:52pm |
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| Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1972
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The biggest selling car make is already the Tesla, driven by tax on non electric cars. A colleague based there recently bought a used D4, which in the UK would have cost £35k, but was about £80k (at a simple 10NOK per £). The infrastructure is already there to make it happen very quickly, and what the Norwegian govt says it will do it does. See sugar tax and alcohol tax. Stunning country though.
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7th Jun 2016 8:49pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1218  
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A work colleague went over there a while ago and the government policy is rather sound. Bear in mind this is from pub talk.
Essential Norway is / has been oil rich, they also have a huge amount of hydro power. Heat can come from geothermal so hydro provides all the electricity. All the money from oil has been banked or invested into their infrastructure. Basically they are fortunate in their resources so can afford to do so. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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7th Jun 2016 9:28pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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It does make you wonder with these sweeping statements about banning petrol and diesel engined vehicles, what happens to shipping afloat, trawlers and ferries etc? Then there's the agricultural industry, you don't see many plug sockets tucked away in the hedge in the middle of nowhere!
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7th Jun 2016 9:38pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Im sure there is a lot of media hype and it wont come to fruition (especially given the distances invovled driving around Norway and tourists etc)...but one thing is for sure - many European countries already have a much better electric car network, im amazed how many points there are in little villages - we struggle in cities...unfortunately we havent yet made it all the way round to Norway (ironically driving) but i wouldnt be surprised if they dont have or wont easily establish electric gird for charging cars....not that im a convert to electric Mike
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7th Jun 2016 10:10pm |
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| flydive Member Since: 27 Aug 2015 Location: Lugano Posts: 290  
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I do know how it works in Norway, but here a good part of the money for the roads(and other things) comes from the tax on fuel. Are they going to tax electricity the same way?
How are they going to differentiate between home and automotive use? Are they going to increase car tax multiple times? At moments recharge is cheap, sometimes even free(Tesla already announced that they will probably scrap the free recharge), but only because it it artificially made so. |
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8th Jun 2016 3:29pm |
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