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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110   
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Finally Justice for the 96 Hillsborough fans.
All 96 unlawfully killed. What an emotional day for the Liverpool families and a great day for British justice (finally). RIP the 96 goodnight and god bless... For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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26th Apr 2016 1:41pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471  
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Indeed.
I am not a follower of football in the least but I was personally touched by the incident. How quickly the years have passed. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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26th Apr 2016 6:27pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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The problem is stepping back in time the priority was controlling hooligans at all costs. It cost the lives of 96 fans.
I used to go to Highbury as a youth but stopped going after a Liverpool game when I was threatened by a group of thugs that left me feeling very vulnerable. I was also pushed out of a queue on one occasion and I stepped back in only to be unceremoniously ejected by a policeman on a horse , tore all the buttons of my shirt ( paisley pattern with a high collar ) and I was thrown out. The culture was all football fans are yobs . The real crime was the lies and the cover up that followed and I think that is where the prosecutions will come from. Some senior police officers have perjured themselves in numerous interviews and even the previous inquest. That is not acceptable. It is good that justice is beginning to be done. HR064 Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response |
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28th Apr 2016 3:35pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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We seem to be getting a lot of political threads on here as late. Is a defender forum the best place for this. Because I disagree with OP and don't feel the police are completely to blame. But know my views would be unpopular and against the grain. I don't think they handled it well. I was only 10 at the time so didn't really sink in what happened. But as long as we can blame someone and get compensation everyone is happy.
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28th Apr 2016 5:05pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Compensation? Happy? I imagine my friend and work colleague at the time would rather have her son alive and well today rather than he be separated from his father and have the life crushed out of him at that place on that day. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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28th Apr 2016 5:54pm |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 582
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The fact that the police caused the deaths of 96 people is unforgivable and someone needs to face the full force of the law, it was a criminal offence, after all.
The cover up that followed, one hundred police officers changing their witness statements or notebooks is shocking. Every single one of those officers should be sacked and their pensions withheld. They have lied, covered up a crime, perverted the course of justice and caused untold grief to hundreds of friends and relatives. How can the evidence provided by those officers in the following 26 years be believed. Anyone convicted on their evidence now has an open door to a review of their case, as it can be proven that the prosecution witnesses are unreliable and untrustworthy. The trust in the police has reached an all time low. There needs to be drastic action to show the public that the police are getting their house in order, and no longer run a ' we look after each other' regime, at the expense of truth and justice. A few slaps on the wrist, will just not cut it! 80" 1948 Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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28th Apr 2016 6:18pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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Nothing has changed then as you are now 37 and the truth of what happened has still not sunk in... For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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28th Apr 2016 6:20pm |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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Genuine question ... Was there an inquest or prosecution after the Heysel stadium?
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28th Apr 2016 6:54pm |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826 
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I too, didn't really understand the trauma and heartbreak of what happened at Hillsborough, but after reading this article it really brought a tear to my eye....worth a read.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/a...ed-decades Cheers Simon |
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28th Apr 2016 6:55pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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See this is exactly what I mean. You post your views and everyone else is wrong. Same thing is happening over on disco3. I don't want to argue with forum members and don't want to be insulted or lectured. Difficult subject and difficult to discuss as 96 people died.
Well I was 8 at the time. |
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28th Apr 2016 6:57pm |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 582
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Rob
I agree, if we just state our own view and keep it relevant, there is no need to get personal, or criticise others. 80" 1948 Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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29th Apr 2016 7:57am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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Peaceful debate. Everyone has different views and should be allowed to state them. The courts have decreed the blame is at the polices door only. It's likely to cost the tax payer £50million. I don't think the Yorkshire police should be completely demonised, being a police officer is a job I couldn't do, they made some grave errors that day but they were only there to keep law and order not control crowds of people. Other events employ hundreds of staff to ensure everyone is safe and managed right. I think there are many that should be in the dock, Fans, stadium owners and the police.
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29th Apr 2016 8:36am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110
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I entirely agree everyone is entitled to their own thoughts, beliefs and opinions. On the other hand when someone writes that they are in disagreement with the original thread starter to give emphasis to their own sentiments, rather than to just post their beliefs, then they should expect to be challenged. And while I do not wish to be doctrinaire in my beliefs, I must lay prominence on the fact these are not my viewpoints but the finding of a lengthy inquiry in which the jury found the South Yorkshire police force culpable of a criminal act along with the failings of the Ambulance service and the construction of the stadium. As you may have noticed there is no appeal on this judgement so to dispute its findings is a little odd. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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29th Apr 2016 12:46pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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Seems as usual the papers print half the story. Having read the jury inquest report this morning it makes sense.
https://hillsboroughinquests.independent.g...4274_1.pdf |
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1st May 2016 7:09am |
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