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| RustyM Member Since: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Africa/The Med Posts: 222   
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Hi,
I think this may help you: http://www.auteltech.com/u/cms/www/201209/07033345uqvu.pdf If correct it is Cylinder 1 - Injector Restricted 90 & Wolf 110 XS Previously owned SI SII SIIa SIII & Light weight (air portable) |
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25th Apr 2016 4:26pm |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68 
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So, what's that? New injector?
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25th Apr 2016 4:32pm |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68
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Well, removed injector no1, it was pretty oily
I turned it over with the injector removed from the engine but connected up. It fired up and there seems to be plenty diesel coming through injector no1. Not looking good is it? |
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25th Apr 2016 4:48pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 
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Injecting too much fuel causing clatter from 'hydraulicing'.
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25th Apr 2016 4:57pm |
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| RustyM Member Since: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Africa/The Med Posts: 222
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I would never take a code as correct
 It would indicate it is possibly fuel related....
I would do a leak off test, do a test run for 30 sec's If one of the injectors is bad one of the cylinders will be full before that... There are a lot of things that control the fuel side of things but and I would possibly suspect the SCV 
I recall there was an ECU update around 2007/08 also related to this issue.... I am sure others will add to this... Caterham had a fuel issue similar to this I think.. 90 & Wolf 110 XS Previously owned SI SII SIIa SIII & Light weight (air portable) |
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25th Apr 2016 5:01pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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Yep, leak off test would be my next port of call.
Compression test would give you more to go on too. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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25th Apr 2016 8:05pm |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68
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Having removed all the injectors we found that the engine wont turn over by hand. I'm thinking maybe a dropped valve.
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26th Apr 2016 7:42am |
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| RustyM Member Since: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Africa/The Med Posts: 222
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Oh did not think of that given the code... Good luck, let us know how you get on. 90 & Wolf
110 XS Previously owned SI SII SIIa SIII & Light weight (air portable) |
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26th Apr 2016 9:58am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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I thought you had it turning and firing with one injector out? 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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26th Apr 2016 11:45am |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68
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I did. It won't turn all the way over by hand though and that's with the injectors removed.
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26th Apr 2016 12:19pm |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68
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So.
Removed the head. There's yer problem!!! Click image to enlarge This little blighter causing it. Still not sure what it is?? Click image to enlarge |
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27th Apr 2016 2:32pm |
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| WhathaveIdone! Member Since: 04 Feb 2016 Location: Sakhalin Island Posts: 27  
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Only thing that comes to mind are the clips that secure the leak off tubes to the injectors as they are made of thin pressed steel like the part in the photo.
Difficult to see how anything of this size could get into the cylinder - the hole for the injector is only 8mm diameter or so and it doesn't seem likely that it would come through a valve without more damage? Would be interested to hear your conclusions. |
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30th Apr 2016 1:22am |
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| Soupy Member Since: 05 Dec 2014 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 68
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That was only part of it. The rest was found jammed under a valve, which was found at the engineering workshop we sent the head to, to have new valves fitted and re-seated. It looks like some sort of spire clip.
I can confirm that the part that made it past the valve was indeed small enough to fit through the hole. My best guess is that it was dropped into the inlet manifold somewhere during a (fairly) recent EGR replacement. Oh well, we will start putting it back together on Monday. |
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30th Apr 2016 8:45am |
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