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Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2638 |
I have big brakes too, i was told during development they tried numerous callipers (both front and rear) with different size pistons to retail a similar pedal feel..
mine feel great.. I'm guessing someone did some development with the tarox brakes? did you get the 6 or 8 pot fronts? |
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29th Apr 2016 11:40am |
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Bristol 90XS Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: North of Bath Posts: 223 |
well I would hope Urban Truck have done some as they are using on a V8 they have!!
The combination is 6 pot front and 6 pot rear, rear disks are supposed to be smaller and designed for rear according to TMD. What combo is in yours? And what make did you fit? Thanks for reply, James |
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29th Apr 2016 12:36pm |
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Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2638 |
hmm maybe urban changed the master cylinder on the v8?
i thought tarox used standard discs? i'm personally not a fan of tmd but will leave it at that.. I've got ap racing, 6 front 4 rear 360 disc front i think 298 rear? |
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29th Apr 2016 12:58pm |
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Bristol 90XS Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: North of Bath Posts: 223 |
How does that setup work?
It was a long pedal with just 6 pistons on there already but these brakes are marketed for Defender so shouldn't need an upgraded master cylinder to make them work!!! James |
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29th Apr 2016 1:29pm |
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YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1641 |
It shouldn't need an upgraded master cylinder... says who?
Given the huge volume increase you have made over the additional system, I would be amazed if the OEM master cylinder was up to the job. Been there, done that with the Lotus days. These 'improvements' need ground up engineering to be properly successful IMHO. Almost reverse engineered to really make it work properly.. And then, you fit the bigger master cylinder... then you find the brake bias is off... so then you get a bias valve fitted... etc etc! Hope you get it sorted... YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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29th Apr 2016 1:52pm |
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Bristol 90XS Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: North of Bath Posts: 223 |
Thanks YOLO!!
Says me The brakes aren't marketed as needing a larger master cylinder, nor any adjustment either so it shouldn't need anything to be an improvement over standard! To pay a large sum for an upgrade which is marketed as such should be just what it is!!! Interested about what you did on Lotus before though sounds impressive!! James |
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29th Apr 2016 2:16pm |
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Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2638 |
is it spongy or just long travel?
i tried experimenting (mountain biking) with lightweight levers and more downhill focused callipers on one bike, the servo lengths etc weren't suited and in the end had less stopping power than a standard cross country setup had to really use the full travel of the leaver... now time has moved on a bit and everything is enduro Im no expert just chiming in my experiences... |
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29th Apr 2016 6:40pm |
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Christian1402 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Cumbria Posts: 214 |
Enduro ftw
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29th Apr 2016 9:27pm |
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Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782 |
Brakes,...VERY important!!
And, they have to work, PROPERLY. And that is why a properly engineered kit is the answer. If a brake kit is produced by reputable people, and marketed specifically for a Defender, then that "kit" should be all that is required, unless of course there are conditions attached to instructions relative to fitment. In Aus, we don't see much of this stuff for Defenders, but there's HEAPS & HEAPS of it for Ford & Holden V8s, marketed by various companies. These companies do all the testing R & D etc, so that when you buy the kit, it works well with your master cylinder, brake fluid pipes, bias etc etc,.....which doesn't happen if you cobble up a combination of stuff yourself. Pickles. |
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29th Apr 2016 10:18pm |
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Bristol 90XS Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: North of Bath Posts: 223 |
@Likeomg - it's spongy with longer pedal travel but if you pump once it firms up and feels better but still not right.
@Pickles - kit is marketed for Defender with no mention of potential extra kit required or potential for this scenario I'm posting here to find out if anyone has done this, had same issues and has overcome the issue... |
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29th Apr 2016 10:23pm |
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Mjibex Member Since: 21 Mar 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 283 |
Have you driven far enough to allow the brakes to bed in?
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30th Apr 2016 5:55am |
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Bristol 90XS Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: North of Bath Posts: 223 |
Yes have done about 1000 miles on fronts to let them bed in. No difference since fitting rears and having system flushed through to remove any air.
Seems strange that no one seems to have fitted these brakes - loads of people sell them! James |
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30th Apr 2016 11:34am |
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familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 |
Take it UT and get them to sort it? 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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30th Apr 2016 11:43am |
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Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2638 |
earlier today..
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30th Apr 2016 6:26pm |
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