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ParabolicSwivel



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Removing front door cards - Winder handle trouble
Evening,

I'm about to attempt to fit a Halfords central locking kit to my farm-spec '12 DCPU but am having a bit of trouble removing the front door cards.

I'm trying to get the window winders off. The back doors seem fine as I can easily push the panel back and get to the spring clip, but the fronts cards just won't push back. I can't even get a trim tool in between the handle and the card to give it some leverage - when I push the card back the handle seems to move with it.

The winding handles and the 'bezel' are so flimsy I stand a good chance of making a real mess of them, and I expect it won't be any easier to get the darned things back on.

Anyone else had trouble with this or is it just me? Any suggestions would be welcome!

Cheers.
Post #520338 2nd Apr 2016 6:15pm
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ickle



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If you fabricate a small hooked tool (Christmas cracker flat screwdriver bent over) you should be able to hook the horse shoe circlip by pushing it down behind the winder and pulling the clip out.

To refit, fit the clip in place and knock the handle on with the flat of your hand

Good luck

Keith
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ian series 1



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What you need is a little hook tool.
Like a small screwdriver with a sharp hook on the end.

Push it behind the winder, and catch the top of the little holding clip, and give it a sharp pull.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hook+too...swGCw5yoAw 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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ian series 1



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Keith beat me to it while I was attaching the link!
Wink 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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Nevillerover



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Rip a 25mm wide length of cotton material off an old sheet or something, slip it between the hand,e and the card, sort of pull it to and fro and voila! Off the clip will come.
Post #520367 2nd Apr 2016 7:21pm
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ickle



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Well remembered Nevillerover!! Works a treat Bow down
Post #520371 2nd Apr 2016 7:25pm
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ParabolicSwivel



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Ingenious, thanks guys - I'll have a go this morning and report back!
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From past experience with these door cards, it may pay you to get some replacement clips for the lower part of the door card.

I seem to snap them when removing Embarassed

Although you may be more careful at it than me and manage to keep them in one piece. Thumbs Up Cheers Simon

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Post #520449 3rd Apr 2016 8:23am
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ParabolicSwivel



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Very happy. That worked a treat. Combination of a hooked bit of metal and bravely prying the handle out a little bit further.

Thanks guys.

Think I might leave the plastic bezel / collar thing off when it goes back together. It still leaves a smaller gap around the handle than the ones on the back doors anyway.

2 of the bottom clips broke out of the mounting in the door card before I remembered to use my trim removal pliers. Embarassed The remaining ones came out beautifully after than. Hoping that araldite or similar will sort that one out.

Looks like fitting the actuators should be pretty straight-forward now. Just remembered they were from Maplin not Halfords.

One day I might become really brave and try to connect it all up to the 10AS (have to fit the relay in it first). Looks like there's some really good info in the forum archives on that, but for now I'll just be happy that I don't need to do the ritual stretching exercises to reach around to each door when getting in and out of the vehicle.
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steeplejack



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Just been sorting out the rear window on my 110 and after quite a bit of cursing managed to get the winder handle off. I bought some trim removal tools ages ago but really only used one from the pack to pop the trim but AFTER I'd done the winder handle I pulled the other tools all out of the pack and noticed this.


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Suffice to say this tool is designed specifically for getting winder handle circlips off. I tried it out and it takes about 5 seconds. Would have saved me a lot of hassle Big Cry
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ParabolicSwivel



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Wish I'd known about that! Time to get the tin snips out and try to replicate it. Very Happy
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steeplejack



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It's made from 1mm plate, 12mm in the narrow part and 26mm in the wider section. Good luck.

And as a picture tells a thousand words, here is the clip you're trying to shift and where it fits.



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Post #526388 24th Apr 2016 9:41am
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