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K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
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2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

leeds wrote:
Am sure I do not have to say it on here but please play safely with them.Brendan

If the news is to be believed and the aviation incident yesterday these drones are going to be on 'borrowed time' without correct licensing and control.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36069002

Anderzander wrote:
Another beginner question: what would be a good, inexpensive, one to start with?

I would wait and see how this pans out, save your money or divert it to something else perhaps? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

18th Apr 2016 7:02am

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3372

riccarton - most drones have a range which is outside the legal limits and that's part of the problem!

The law is you are able to fly up to 500m horizontaly and 400ft vertically away from your position.
However you have to have the drone in sight at all times and given the size of most consumer drones, this is almost impossible once the thing is more than a couple of hundred meters away!

The phantom 4 I've just got has a theoretical range of up to 3 miles on the standard transmitter!
There is also video on youtube of muppets taking them up to 12,000ft+.

The video link from the current phantom is a digital HD stream back to the controller / tablet and is very reliable and not prone to interference as on the earlier models.

18th Apr 2016 9:38am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17364

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Much as I regret it, I do tend to think that private ownership of drones is likely to be regulated into extinction soon. Apart from the problems of morons (allegedly) flying them into air corridors, the first time a terrorist delivers a payload via drone, or intentionally uses one as a weapon, you'll see knee-jerk regulation like never before.

You only have to look at the appalling fiasco that has happened with deactivated weapons since the Paris attacks to see the calibre of legislation that our bungling European political masters can produce. Shoddy, irrational, unenforceable, and 'justified' through the propagation of lies and deceit by people who actually don't understand what they're talking about.

Enjoy your drones while you can.

18th Apr 2016 10:38am

Riccarton

Member Since: 10 Aug 2015
Location: Gods' Own Country
Posts: 280

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Zambezi Silver

Thanks for the info guys - lookslike I'll have to get one asap. I'll be able to check sheep / lambs without disturbing them - or rather them chasing after me thinking I'm bringing proven'

I'd best research wind limits etc next

18th Apr 2016 11:18am

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3372

Checking the cattle first thing

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18th Apr 2016 11:55am

Projectblue

Member Since: 22 Nov 2011
Location: Devon
Posts: 1096

Don't suppose anyone has done the approved CAA course for these?

New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info

18th Apr 2016 5:38pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3372

I'm booked on mine for next month....

18th Apr 2016 6:03pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3748

Isn't the approved course more for those wanting to use drones commercial (to make an income from them)

I'm pretty sure the laws will change very soon.... enjoy it while I cam

18th Apr 2016 6:53pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5035

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

K9F wrote:
leeds wrote:
Am sure I do not have to say it on here but please play safely with them.Brendan

If the news is to be believed and the aviation incident yesterday these drones are going to be on 'borrowed time' without correct licensing and control.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36069002

Anderzander wrote:
Another beginner question: what would be a good, inexpensive, one to start with?

I would wait and see how this pans out, save your money or divert it to something else perhaps?

Im a pilot and in BALPA and i have to say they and the BBC are really gunning for Drones - although you need to be sensible and flying them at or near a plane is stupid - i think its a bit of a witch hunt, i dont share the same fears and feel they are going OTT as if they dont have anything else to focus on...i would much rather they invest time dealing with the C U next Tuesday people who shine lasers.

I feel that the anti drone lobby (like the anti guns, anti 4x4s, anti anything they dont like) ruin it as much as the couple of idiots that shouldnt be allowed to breed let alone fly a drone.

It certainly makes me not want to take mine out anywhere regardless of knowing how these things can go out of control...on a plus after demonstrating i can fly the weight, with my pilots licence, can fly them commercially now!

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Don't suppose anyone has done the approved CAA course for these?

Basically yes if you are a qualified pilot all you need to do is demonstrate you can handle the weight category of drone to an independent and competent person...saved the £4k drone course, but my £50K pilots licence sort of makes that seem cheap anyway! Mike

18th Apr 2016 6:57pm

Likeomg

Member Since: 29 Jun 2012
Location: Lake District / Newcastle
Posts: 2640

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

I really want one, try filming a bit of biking on mountain ridge lines.. would love to take it to sea with me around the caribbean but id have to speak very nicely with the seco, bunch of funny rules with what you can / can't take onboard..

we do have a micro helicopter for flying around the bridge

18th Apr 2016 7:22pm

Striker

Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 127

leeds wrote:
Am sure I do not have to say it on here but please play safely with them.

Like many things the minority can spoil it for the majority.

Have a read of this

Would hate to imagine the possible consequences if a drone had gone into a jet engine intake.

Brendan

Surely it's no worse than a radio controlled aircraft or helicopter. Who in their right mind would fly anything near an airport?
Anything is dangerous if it is not used with respect. Cheers Andy

Never Knowingly Understood

18th Apr 2016 7:34pm

Enid_Puceflange

Member Since: 25 Oct 2014
Location: edinburgh
Posts: 1172

Projectblue wrote:
Don't suppose anyone has done the approved CAA course for these?

We are all licenced & accredited

Did our ops manual & flight exams in 2014

My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years.

18th Apr 2016 10:34pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3372

Striker wrote:
leeds wrote:
Am sure I do not have to say it on here but please play safely with them.

Like many things the minority can spoil it for the majority.

Have a read of this

Would hate to imagine the possible consequences if a drone had gone into a jet engine intake.

Brendan

Surely it's no worse than a radio controlled aircraft or helicopter. Who in their right mind would fly anything near an airport?
Anything is dangerous if it is not used with respect.

I think the issue is you have to have a certain amount of skill / knowledge to fly a radio controlled aircraft or helicopter to avoid wrecking it on your first time out and as such a certain knowledge of the flying risks.

With todays quadcopters any numpty can fly one, you get them out of the box and you're away out of sight or up to 10,000 ft and onto youtube before you know it.....

19th Apr 2016 9:06am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17364

camelman wrote:
With todays quadcopters any numpty can fly one, you get them out of the box and you're away out of sight or up to 10,000 ft and onto youtube before you know it.....

I think you are bang on the head of the nail with this comment. As with any activity, once you de-skill it, idiots will start to do it.

It is much the same issue as is happening with driver aids in cars - the less skill that is required to drive a car, the lower the standard of driving.

19th Apr 2016 9:17am

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3748

I'm used to radio control cars but my Drone is quite different,

I've only been practicing at low levels... getting used to landing / taking off and turning. The hardest part I find is when I've moved round a bit which way it the front

Think I may buy a 'head lamp LED

This is about as high as I've been....

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19th Apr 2016 9:38am

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