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szracer



Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 356

England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Noisekiller
Well, now that I've finally finished fitting a full NoiseKiller kit (including under bonnet and rear panels) to my Puma 110 USW, I can give an honest appraisal. Only thing I wish I'd had time to do (but didn't) was to record the same drive 'before' and 'after'.

Impressions:

- Has made a BIG differerence!

INterestingly, when I was fitting it, the total effect crept up on me slowly (I fitted it in several stages). It's subtle but brilliant.

- From my point of view, if I was driving the 110 on my own, I could live with the factory level of noise (especially since the XS has a little more soundproofing than base models), but..I travel with others, and it has made a big difference to my ability to hear back seat passengers and conversations.

- Have had to adjust the stereo. Have actually had to add more high frequency sound! Before, the sound was harsh and sibilant no matter what. Down 5 steps on the volume!

- You can still hear the clatter of the engine, and the clonk of the gear linkage, but it's a bit more muted. Not like a Bentley, though!

- Doors now make a 'clonk' sound rather than a clang. This despite not having fitted the panels to inside of doors yet. The difference is that the interior doesn't echo!

- The bits of the kit that made the biggest difference (in order) were:

1. Rear floor, and lower panels.
2. Under Bonnet
3. Seat boxes and gearbox tunnel.
4. Middle row seat floor and bulkhead.
5. Rear side panels.
6. Bellhousing.

Still to fit panels that they supply to inside of doors. Toying with the idea of their lead blanket for under bonnet....

Suspect to get perfect improvement in sound levels I'd need to fit the Nakatanenga door seals and clad the engine bay side of the bulkhead.

Massive improvement as it is, though!! Almost saloon car-like levels of noise. 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8
Post #45474 16th Nov 2010 7:09pm
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Zinke



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
Do you place the sound killer stuff behind the original land rover trim or does it replace the land rover stuff?

Many thanks

Pete
Post #45478 16th Nov 2010 8:30pm
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ken



Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
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Sorry if rude but how much was the kit ?
Post #45480 16th Nov 2010 8:57pm
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szracer



Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 356

England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Hi Pete,

Yes, I placed it behind the LR trim. The only place I didn't was on the bulkhead, and front bellhousing, as the LR original felt there is already quite thick.

Apart from that, I figured 'the more layers of soundproofing the better'.

In fact, in the case of the front floor, I had about 2cm thickness, including the noisekiller stuff, LR carpets, plus rubber mats.

And yes, I did check that I still get full pedal travel!

One big advantage of the Noisekiller stuff is that it's not felt, so won't soak up water.

I realise this is probably not to 'hardcore offroaders' taste, but then the whole idea of the Defender is that it is put to use in myriad ways. IN my case, this means wading only in an emergency, and mainly gentle greenlaning, getting me through snow and ice, towing a trailer, plus getting me up a hill to judge the Cotswold Olimpicks!

Zinke wrote:
Do you place the sound killer stuff behind the original land rover trim or does it replace the land rover stuff?

Many thanks

Pete
 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8


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Post #45481 16th Nov 2010 9:00pm
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szracer



Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
Location: Cotswolds
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England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
£280, plus £65 for the rear panel pieces.

Not cheap, but for me makes the Defender a whole lot pleasant!

I'd looked at the Wright Off-Road stuff, but is not for Td4s and is a bit more 'utilitarian'.

With the USW's rear panels, I'd actually already fitted a TGE kit, but not too impressed with that. Just ome bits of plywood covered in carpet - even I could have rustled that up, and they keep falling off.

Am going to fit noisekiller behind those panels, then stick them properly!

ken wrote:
Sorry if rude but how much was the kit ?
 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8
Post #45483 16th Nov 2010 9:07pm
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leeds



Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
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szracer wrote:


With the USW's rear panels, I'd actually already fitted a TGE kit, but not too impressed with that. Just ome bits of plywood covered in carpet - even I could have rustled that up, and they keep falling off.

Am going to fit noisekiller behind those panels, then stick them properly!

ken wrote:
Sorry if rude but how much was the kit ?




Mudstuff Uk are now doing panels including acoustic pads for a 90 hardtop.

Believe 110 model is on the cards so to speak.


HTH



Brendan
Post #45487 16th Nov 2010 9:41pm
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chiefstoker



Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: Weston-super-Mud
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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zambezi Silver
leeds wrote:
szracer wrote:


With the USW's rear panels, I'd actually already fitted a TGE kit, but not too impressed with that. Just ome bits of plywood covered in carpet - even I could have rustled that up, and they keep falling off.

Am going to fit noisekiller behind those panels, then stick them properly!

ken wrote:
Sorry if rude but how much was the kit ?




Mudstuff Uk are now doing panels including acoustic pads for a 90 hardtop.

Believe 110 model is on the cards so to speak.


HTH



Brendan



i have the mudstuff panels in my 90, a bit of a pig to fit but well worth the effort and the sound comfort level and overall comfort feel has improved so much.
Post #45498 17th Nov 2010 6:54am
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BIGFOG



Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Edenbridge
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I have the TGE panels in my 110USW and they have never fallen off and blend in very well with the rear. I think they were about £100 for the set, 2 side panels, each made out of two pieces with a plastic finisher to go over the box section in the middle of the panel and two small panels to cover the rear quarter lights. I was very pleased...
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Grockle



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
fitted it to our XS very good quality and fit 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #45525 17th Nov 2010 10:14am
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szracer



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England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
OK - Maybe being a little harsh on theTGE panels.

However, they do keep falling off on mine. Maybe I fixed them wrongly?

Are they supposed to sit under the plastic trim at all?

BIGFOG wrote:
I have the TGE panels in my 110USW and they have never fallen off and blend in very well with the rear. I think they were about £100 for the set, 2 side panels, each made out of two pieces with a plastic finisher to go over the box section in the middle of the panel and two small panels to cover the rear quarter lights. I was very pleased...
 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8
Post #45552 17th Nov 2010 11:27am
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bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I've got the full Noisekiller kit fitted to my double cab and agree with James, it does make a big difference to noise levels.

In the DC the rear floor and the area under and behind the rear seats seem to have the most drastic reduction in noise level.

Well worth the money Thumbs Up

Bob
Post #45590 17th Nov 2010 5:21pm
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eutek



Member Since: 03 Mar 2009
Location: High Wycombe
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Would the door panels be affected by Waxyoil cavity wax application, or would you remove them beforehand?
Post #45596 17th Nov 2010 5:51pm
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BigRuss



Member Since: 15 May 2010
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Just had a look on the website, it looks pritty good.

Not that it's a bad thing but surely with the extra padding/insulation it would help keep the landy cool in the summer with the ac on and then warm in the winter. Thus helping save a bit of power. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #45601 17th Nov 2010 8:03pm
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MrFlips



Member Since: 27 May 2009
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Wales 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Santorini Black
When you buy the kits do they come Land Rover shaped, or do you get sheets that you need to cut yourself? Peter
2008 SWB Truck Cab
1952 80" Soft top
Post #45618 17th Nov 2010 11:26pm
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landy andy



Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Noise killer mat kits are cut to size, numbered, and then listed with their location.

I brought the full kit and a complete sheet, and covered the back of my truck, over all the mobile storage kit. Made huge difference, even stopped the "crap your pants" moment when stone is released by tryre, and no rain noise. And covered all other areas that I could find.

Andy
Post #45631 18th Nov 2010 7:48am
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