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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
Those of a more mechanical bent, advice please. The 110 is in workshops today, so have borrowed Mrs Grenadier's Mini. When standing outside the car, behind the exhaust, there is a warble of exhaust gases, rather than purr. Hence the phonetic description in the title (please say out loud, in a private place, to get the full gist ).
Car has had a recent new battery and had a service with full diagnostics, nothing registering. Any ideas what would be the main cause? Dirty fuel filter? Timing belt? Other? Help or thoughts welcome. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Mar 2016 11:13am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
1.6 Cooper.
Not starting very easily, (so I am thinking solenoid, but spark plugs were aparently changed last service), and can surge a little bit. Also in the past, under idle there was enough rev to allow for a controlled reverse without applying the accelerator. Tried today and stalled. Did wonder at a missing cylinder, but as mentioned, nothing came up on the computer/ECU checks. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Mar 2016 3:22pm |
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adseybear Member Since: 08 Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 260 |
What sort of age/mileage?
I was reading an article the other day about these engines suffering quite badly from carbon build up. 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green - "Betty" 1958 Series IIA 109 Station Wagon - "Randolph" - Awaiting Restoration 2019 Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon - SOLD 2006 Volvo V70 D5 - Ocean Race Edition, SOLD 2003 VW Passat Estate 1.9TDI - SOLD 2008 BMW 320D M Sport Estate - SOLD 2001 Defender 90 Td5 Hard Top - SOLD |
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8th Mar 2016 3:38pm |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
2005 RHD, 'Cooper', Manual, 70k miles. 90% long journeys, mostly by my wife (1st and only owner), so never 'ragged'. FMSH. NB, 2005 was the 'cross over year' for the new Mini between the original and the updated variant. Different engines I believe. This is an original 'new' Mini, Park Lane variant. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Mar 2016 3:43pm |
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tobz102 Member Since: 07 Feb 2014 Location: Atherstone Posts: 134 |
My girlfriend has exactly the same 1.6 cooper park lane 55 plate. She's recently had the completely rotten backbox replaced which changed the tone massively. But aside from that I've never noticed anything i consider to be an unusual engine noise....nor a warble. I'll have a listen out over the next few days and see.
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8th Mar 2016 4:30pm |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
I'll try and record it. Most defintely not right. Sounds a bit like a Subaru Impreza, sadly without the extra BHP... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Mar 2016 5:03pm |
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theorangebandit Member Since: 03 Jun 2013 Location: Stowmarket Posts: 862 |
Inspect the exhaust system, your symptom sounds as I its blowing, difficulty in starting could possibly be due to the weather we've recently had, its not impossible that the new battery isn't up to maximum output.
The sporty sound you describe often turns out to be a blowing exhaust. |
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9th Mar 2016 1:29am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
Ok, for those interested, here's some video. It was shot last night, once home. We had done a steady 90kmh, 20km drive home. Nothing violent.
Interestingly it was -12c overnight and -8c when I tried starting this morning. I say tried as there was nothing. I think the battery is dead, so I am thinking alternator or similar. Would that make the warble? Btw, this video was the worst it has sounded. Normally it's there, but less pronounced. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Mar 2016 8:05am |
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AJC Member Since: 30 Nov 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1362 |
Sounds like a missfire on idle and a nackered exhaust.
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9th Mar 2016 8:16am |
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Clive Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Littleborough Posts: 467 |
Has someone slipped a 200tdi in there while you weren't looking
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9th Mar 2016 8:58am |
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tobz102 Member Since: 07 Feb 2014 Location: Atherstone Posts: 134 |
wow not what I was expecting, does it disappear when you give it revs? If it's still there i'd be looking along the exhaust for starters as they're prone to rot all over. If not then as AJC says doesn't sound like it's firing all 4 cylinders, plugs and coil for starters?
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9th Mar 2016 9:21am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
Yes, exhaust was a consideration. The thing is absolutely nothing came up on the diagnostic checks last autumn. It's only been used a handful of times since then. As mentioned, dead this morning and that sound last night was the worst I have heard it. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Mar 2016 9:26am |
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130dreamer Member Since: 29 Feb 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 100 |
My wifes mini developed the same sound last night!
Half way home she got an engine warning light, nursed it home and then suggested I took it out. Having heard the sound it was making, I left it where it was. It sounded much worse on acceleration. Will be taking it into the garage later this week (I am only happy working on Defenders, none of this modern stuff!) Will let you know if I learn anything that may be relevant. |
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9th Mar 2016 9:46am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816 |
Thanks 130. Not a little ironic that it dies when the 110 is in workshops. Such is life. I, like you, don't like these modern, complicated German things. Keep it simple, stupid is a great motto. Good luck, will keep you posted on what I find out as well. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Mar 2016 9:49am |
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