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ChrisCM



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Location: Cornwall uk
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Faulty Door Actuator?
Hi,

I have had the non locking central door locking on the front passenger door of my 110, as advised in other posts I have checked the continuity of the cable from plug in the wing to just before the actuator, all ok. I put a multimeter across the wires next to the actuator and get a voltage pulse of circa 10 volts when I operate the fob. So it looks like the actuator is u/s, but can any of our electrical experts out there confirm that 10v is about right? I obviously don't want to splash out on a new one if there is likely to be some other problems.

Thanks,

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
Post #511954 8th Mar 2016 10:48am
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landybear



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Belize Green
Cant confirm what the voltage should be, however for a quick sense check you could test the side that works correctly and compare the readings. 2003 Defender TD5 Hardtop (current - work in progress)
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Post #511959 8th Mar 2016 11:02am
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mk1collector



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You say you've checked the wires but have you physically pulled them near to the rubber boot between the door and pillar? The wires can be broken but can touch when the door is in certain positions so it's worth a tug ( Shocked ) of the wires to see if they come out of the boot. Ray
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Post #511977 8th Mar 2016 12:00pm
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
I'll check the voltage at the plug on one of the other doors.
I'm pretty certain that the wire(s) aren't broken, I took the rubber boot and the plug out of the frame and pulled them about quite a bit before I tested them.

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
Post #512008 8th Mar 2016 1:14pm
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spudfan



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If the wires are not broken remove the door trim. You will see a white plastic unit where the two metal rods meet and swivel. Just lubricate the this plastic unit. This solved my backdoor when it would not unlock with the fob. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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Post #512166 8th Mar 2016 7:17pm
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Thanks Spudfan, I've taken the trim off already, there doesn't seem to be any binding of the connecting joints. When I operate the fob there is no movement in the actuator at all and with my finger on the actuator I can't feel anything happening inside so unless my voltages are wrong then I fear that it is the actuator, but I will double check tomorrow, if the rain stops!

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
Post #512268 8th Mar 2016 10:41pm
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spudfan



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I was hoping that it was just something simple! Sad
Goodluck Thumbs Up 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #512271 8th Mar 2016 10:46pm
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mk1collector



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Caterham on here has gone through 2 or 3 actuators on one of his doors in the past few years so failure is a possibility. One of my 2nd row actuators died last year but had been on its way out for a while as I could hear it getting slower and struggling to unlock the door but my defender is a 2004 so a lot older than yours. Ray
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Post #512276 8th Mar 2016 11:21pm
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Go Beyond



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How about swapping over with the other door
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AJC



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I've just had the same issue, i 100% have nothing wrong with the wiring when i checked it.

Ordered an actautor Monday and think it'll be here today so fingers crossed i'll have it fixed tonight. don't really like the no door card look.

As suggested you could try another actuator from another door, but that means breaking all the black plastic inserts Big Cry

New ones for my Td5 are about £45 from paddocks
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
According to my local LR dealer the actuators are different left and right, probably the same for front and rear?

I agree with AJC about taking the door card off, my vapour barrier is made of a grey foam sheet material similar to fragile wrapping which tears when you look at it, 'orrible stuff, the polythene was much easier, I foresee the use of plenty of duct tape to repair it Confused Also, those plastic clips Big Cry I have the correct removal tools but still managed to break several away from the door card, luckily an easy fix with some epoxy!

Getting the new actuator today so will keep you posted, paying £42 + Vat for mine, genuine LR part, so probably the same as Paddocks when you factor in carriage.

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
Post #512377 9th Mar 2016 10:30am
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Merlin



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I had the rear o/s central locking fail, twice. It was the wires in the door jam that had broken. One at a time! When testing I found that a battery (+ve) comes down one wire to open the door and then another +ve comes down the other wire to close it. Sorry that's not very technical.

So to test it one had to hold a tester on the right wire while using the key fob to actuate the correct sequence.

Difficult!

Merlin
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philbert



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Could someone please post the part number for the rear door actuator for a TDCI

Thanks
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Same Merlin, when I tested mine (2 wires) I put a multimeter across the 2 wires, and as you say it was either a + or -voltage for locking/unlocking, can't remember which was which, all of which is quite logical.

Chris 2010 Defender 110 Station Wagon, Santorini Black.
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ChrisCM



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
New actuator fitted, all working Very Happy

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