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sib



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When did the 2.4 change to 2.2 ?
Sorry if I missed a post but does anyone know when the 2.2 came into production to replace the2.4 ?

Thanks in advance Sib
Bath UK
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DAZ110



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
2012 I think is the start of the 2.2
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sib



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Thanks, anyone know the month ? Sib
Bath UK
1952 80 inch
1973 88 inch
2018 Morgan plus 4 narrow body
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
auto express did a review in November 2011 I assume this must be a press car so early 2012 is a safe bet
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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
The Type Approval (for the 2.2 model) is dated from 19 August 2011, and the Land Rover documentation (when it left Solihull?) for my vehicle is dated 16 January 2012. Somewhere between those two dates. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs,
Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons
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sib



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Interesting. I thought there would be a simple day when they all changed to 2.2.

There are quite a few defenders on 61 plates claiming to be 2.2 so they must be very early 2.2 or wrongly advertised. I guess the vehicle reg form will say 2.2 not 2.4

Thanks for all input Sib
Bath UK
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1973 88 inch
2018 Morgan plus 4 narrow body
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Mine is one of the very last of the 2.4's. The 2.2 was just starting to be manufactured, but I wanted a 2.4. To get one, I spoke with LR who told me the last five 2.4's on the production line had just been delivered to dealers. I chased round the dealers and bought mine in Wales (even tho I live in Scotland).

Mine was picked-up on 20th Sept 2011.

So before Sept 2011 is likely to be 2.4, and Oct 2011 onwards likely to be 2.2

Cheers Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)


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2012 model year, so roughly late August 2011.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Indus Silver
Apart from the displacement, what differences are there between the two?
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Scotland 
Mine was registered Jan 2012 and is a 2.4....
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Germany 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Christian1402 wrote:
Apart from the displacement, what differences are there between the two?

AFAIK (from the workshop manual?) MY2012 introduced: DPF, top speed 145km/h (2.4 was 135km/h, sorry what's that in mph?), LED switch lighting, internally ventilated brake discs; improved: ABS, door gaskets, sound proofing, clutch
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Indus Silver
I see, thanks for the reply! Thumbs Up
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
And the 2.2 has a fuel filler cap with a leash



the 2.4 did not have the leash Smile

For me I wanted to avoid the DPF, hence my chasing down one of the very last 2.4's off the production line.

Were carpets not dropped as a standard on the 2.2's ??? Also the "County" and "XS" derivatives were altered?

I also thought late 2.4's had the improved door seals, and later clutch?

2.2 MPG seems to be lower. Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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Birdy



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
"For me I wanted to avoid the DPF"

Me too. Of course, ours will be "disadvantaged" - LEZs, then banned altogether from cities - that bit sooner than 2.2s, but by that time I'll in any case probably be chugging along in a tiny zero-emissions fart-box.

Peter
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
macfrank wrote:
Christian1402 wrote:
Apart from the displacement, what differences are there between the two?

AFAIK (from the workshop manual?) MY2012 introduced: DPF, top speed 145km/h (2.4 was 135km/h, sorry what's that in mph?), LED switch lighting, internally ventilated brake discs; improved: ABS, door gaskets, sound proofing, clutch


Ha ha, improved door gaskets! My 2014 filled with water today crossing a ford much to the children's amusement. Granted, it came in a bit slower than my 300tdi, but not by much!
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