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CR



Member Since: 28 Jan 2010
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I have been told by a contact who has in the past been 100% correct in all information that there will not be a new model that in any way will be a Defender as we all know it .........jut my 1 cent passed on view.


Laughing funny how the world differs

In Ireland we have guys who do brain surgery... and guys who are rocket scientists
Post #552225 29th Jul 2016 6:53pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
mk1collector wrote:
ericvv wrote:
Mr Happy. Looked carefully at your list there. In almost 8 years and 83.000 Km, I indeed had the half shafts replaced, and the EGR once started making unusual noise, but that went away again....
As to the rest of the list, I do not know what that is all about. Whistle Cool
Eric


The thing is though, yours lives in a heated garage a doesn't come out when it's wet or windy and it also doesn't do any real work so it's more likely the ones that get worked will have these problems.


Correct, I also don't think they are built for purpose as is often said. Maybe earlier, but surely not the most recent evolutions.
But, by treating it the way I do, I hope it will last for many moons to come. Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #552241 29th Jul 2016 7:47pm
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Ramajama



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Well, they are going to keep the Defender name. it's already been settled. They've got a three prong "brand" strategy and they are going to continue to bring some new models. Their model range is pretty limited right now and they want to adapt to changing markets and get themselves into new markets. Welcome to today. Laughing

Change is hard, especially for die hard fans, I've been there. I'm sure you've seen or heard the die hard Disco 4 guys lament about the incoming Discovery.... Big Cry

Everyone will eventually get over it.

Purists will have the old Defender available to own and look back on fondly in the used market for years and years to come.

The Defender name is of YUGE importance to JLR...they need to keep the Defender name alive. They will put out a good product that is worthy of the name. Thumbs Up
Post #552371 30th Jul 2016 2:06pm
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Ramajama



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CR wrote:
In Ireland we have guys who do brain surgery... and guys who are rocket scientists


The problem is that they talk so funny, you just can't take them seriously. Rolling with laughter
Post #552375 30th Jul 2016 2:30pm
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BigWheels



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There is another alternative. Re-badging with some corporate identity mods also for legislative reasons. The Ford Ranger a Mazda for example (was anyway).

Pumas have always had Ford motors (sadly never the 3.2), modified to Defender specs.

Here is a question to consider. If LR or another company, designed a Defender replacement for the military, that would be more worthily titled "Defender". Now suppose said vehicle was civvy-ilised. It would have ruggedness, simplicity (relative), background. LR would have a Defender proper, or maybe could buy into it for re-badging and partially making their own. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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defender9



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Hummer made (makes) a military vehicle which by all accounts is very rugged and does the job, then they civvy-ilised it and my God what a design disaster that was, although I do believe that it sells well in the good old US of A
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X4SKP



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29th September 2016


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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Another Photoshop effort, on this occasion carried out by an inept infant, I suggest. However unlikely it is that the new Defender will have a similar rear crossmember to the old, I am fairly sure the tow hitch will be central, unlike the picture!
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X4SKP



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Hi blackwolf

We shouldn't read too much into this well used 'vision' of the new Defender...

The tow frame is I think actually central, it just looks off set due to what looks like
an off set rear winch protected by a 'steering guard'...all as you say photo-shopped
onto a standard rear cross member and those rubbish (rust before your eyes) mud flap
brackets...so NO...not this


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Post #569342 7th Oct 2016 4:50pm
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mk1collector



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Also how does that flat rear crossmember go around the corner to reach the wheel arch? Ray
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Post #569346 7th Oct 2016 5:00pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
You may be right, but the whole rear end looks skewiff and lopsided. Not a good effort, imo.
Post #569365 7th Oct 2016 6:32pm
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AndrewS



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There are loads of pics kicking about of the DC 100 showing the rear end, can't understand why someone would stick a defender crossmember on the back. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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Freypal



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From the rear and side view, I actually quite like the DC100. It was the front end that was the abomination for me...
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