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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17479   
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^^ Looking at the photo above, I am not even sure that the modified elongated-baseplate D rings would fit with that grille.
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3rd Feb 2016 3:49pm |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826 
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I had them on my 300Tdi and had room to spare, but you're right they look a tight fit with an aircon grill.
Re: the Jate rings. While being less exposed, they are under the vehicle and when you're stuck in the mud it's often hard to reach them without doing some digging...😀 Cheers Simon |
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3rd Feb 2016 4:53pm |
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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720 
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It's never simple with our beloved Defenders
Thanks blackwolf for pointing that out. I guess I'll get a pair and try it out, it's not too expensive, and as Simon noted, looks to be a tad neater than digging into mud to fish the jait rings out 
The space does look tight though, will see.  Click image to enlarge Will post a picture here if they fit fine, so others who might be interested to fit them to latest Defenders can reference the thread. RRUK, those look tasty, but would be too worried scratching them off-road Would be nice to have them as a 'shiny' set for special occasions! Maybe one day... MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html
MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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3rd Feb 2016 11:17pm |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826
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Another option that fits on the existing number bolts but doesn't look like it will foul the aircon grill.
Not tried them, so can't be sure... http://www.frogsisland4x4.com/towing_equip/towing_equipTFBRP Cheers Simon |
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3rd Feb 2016 11:42pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17479
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jk84, I have a pair of the elongated type knocking about somewhere (I think I even know where they are!). I will see if I can dig them out and take a photo this evening to show the proportions of them, then you might be able to determine if that type would do what you want.
Unfortunately I don't have access to an a/c fitted vehicle to offer them up to. |
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4th Feb 2016 9:35am |
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| L90Andy Member Since: 29 May 2014 Location: Stratford-Upon-Avon Posts: 719 
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I'd go for a set of these: http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/recovery-eyes.html
Look subtle, works with air con grille, and easy access. Done. |
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4th Feb 2016 11:12am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17479
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^^ They're nice, in many ways they're the 21st Century version of the original D ring.
The only disadvantage I can see is that you have to use a shackle and can't really just tie a rope to them. |
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4th Feb 2016 12:25pm |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826
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FYI: here is a photo of my old TDi with the D rings fitted. Certainly wont fit with an aircon grill...
Click image to enlarge cheers simon |
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4th Feb 2016 2:31pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17479
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They're the standard ones, aren't they, not the elongated ones.
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4th Feb 2016 2:42pm |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826
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Yes, they're the originals. I didn't mean to suggest they were the elongated ones, it was just for reference.
I recall that I always used shackles when attaching the rope, so I don't think that would be an issue with those MUDstuff ones above. cheers simon |
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4th Feb 2016 2:58pm |
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| Chris86 Member Since: 15 Jul 2014 Location: South Yorks Posts: 791 
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I can also vouch for XZLs being quite noisy, my BFG mud KM2s that replaced them are quieter.
they are however surprisingly good in mud, very good in the snow but I have to say I disagree with those who have said they are good in the wet- they could actually be a bit 'exciting' in the wet- particularly under braking. The XZLs also seem to have a very stiff sidewall which, (even when I tried various tyre pressures) make for quite a fidgety, lumpy ride! Chris |
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4th Feb 2016 3:13pm |
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| jk84 Member Since: 17 Feb 2015 Location: Wherever my Defender takes me... Posts: 720
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Thanks blackwolf, kind of you. Looks like L90Andy have spared you of that one though.
Well spotted, problem solved indeed...just the price is a bit zee german premium  But looks a solid product!
That's in a nice shade, that 90 is, Simon
Interesting observations, thanks Chris.Sounds like the XZLs are probably best candidate for an extra set of wheels to put on when off-roading. Or perhaps for skiing trips. Otherwise a set of some shiny alloys with road friendly tyres for normal use - logical excuse to wifey for 'having' to spend more money on the Defender MY15 Aintree 110 SW - for sale - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic82781.html
MY16 Santorini 90 HT - sold |
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4th Feb 2016 11:31pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1766 
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http://www.4x4overlander.com/product/recovery-eyes-defender/
These are basically a cheaper version of the GMB eyes! |
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5th Feb 2016 12:27am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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If you can't reach them without digging then that suggests you should get the shovel out irrespective of whether you have D rings on the bumper or not. Be aware the older D rings had a chassis designed to take the loads. I'm not aware anyone has really designed these Puma versions - the bumper bolts are not actually fastened with a real nut and the final version detailed above makes me cringe - those front two fasteners have no load spreading plate and are attached to a particularly fragile area of the bumper with skimpy set screws. JATE rings - designed for the purpose when form over function is not the primary purchasing criteria. Food for thought: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43870.html |
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5th Feb 2016 2:52pm |
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