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anrw



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Low Mileage service intervals
I have March 2014 Defender which is soon approaching its 24 month service. It was serviced after 12 months at 5000 miles and the current mileage is only 5800 miles. If I delay the 24 month service (due at 24,000 miles!) by say another 6 months when mileage might be circa 7,500 miles am I putting the factory warranty, during it's final 12 months under jeopardy.
Whilst my local dealer is the first line arbiter of this, his answer will of course be get it serviced this March despite the fact that it will only have covered 800 miles since the last service.
Any views on this - indeed do JLR have any guidelines that might help?

Regards
Post #493617 18th Jan 2016 10:52am
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Depends on how much you value your last remaining year of warranty and mitigating the risk of something going wrong and you claiming in that time. After warranty it's an easy decision. Only you can decide but here is my spin on it. Have a look at the thread links below.

K9F wrote:
With such low mileage over a prolonged period you're just wasting money. Bet the dealers absolutely love you throwing money at them each year.
People will say "But a full service history gets you a better premium on selling" but just tote up how much you have spent to date after so few miles and will continue to do so? You will not get that back. I too only cover approximately 3-4k max per year, keep it clean and undercover, it is a keeper (for the time being) and was last serviced 18 months ago at 34k, it has 38k on it now. I will not in principle especially with the advancement of oils and lubricants waste money by taking it in for another service for quite a while.


http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic41928....+servicing

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic13536....+servicing If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #493622 18th Jan 2016 11:11am
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anrw



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K9F many thanks. The implication of your response is that if I don't get the Defender serviced on the due date (rather than due miles), even though only 800 miles has lapsed since the last service, I will lose my warranty entitlement for the final year?
Thanks
Post #493626 18th Jan 2016 11:35am
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
The answer unfortunately is 'Yes most probably?' This can be dependent on the 'relationship' you have with your dealer. Nevertheless it is often taken out of their hands as any warranty claims have to be approved by JLR themselves who will look at your service history. Sound out your dealer and any brokered arrangement due to your low mileage with regards to warranty get in writing.

You need to 'balance the risk' of a claim in your last 12 months of warranty duration, or, to be safe get it serviced accordingly on the calendar due date. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #493635 18th Jan 2016 11:56am
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Not sure how flexible Land Rover are with respect to service timing, but in case of our other car, a VW, they require proof of scheduled service being up to date, and they formally grant being up to 1 month out of date, not more.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #493654 18th Jan 2016 12:52pm
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AJC



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In my opinion, i'd get it serviced regardless, always looks better whn you come to sell it or with warranty, either that do some miles in it prior to servicing so you feel you getting your moneys worth
Post #493664 18th Jan 2016 1:24pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
I stretched out my 1st service to 13 months (5,200 miles), and the 2nd service to 29 months (10,700 miles) - didn't have any impact on warranty as I got some work done right at the end of the 3 years.

Might help you decide but it obviously doesn't set any precedent that JLR will follow.
Post #493666 18th Jan 2016 1:30pm
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Riccarton



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Scotland 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Zambezi Silver
Doesn't a car doing so little miles need more servicing?

With so few miles when are the transmission oils likely to get hot enough to eveporate any condensation that might collect? Thwe same could also be said for the engine oil at 800 miles per year Shocked
The fuel tank is more likely to become a breeding ground for algae in the bio-fuels we have now so the fuel filter will need changing at increased intervals (this is a big problem on tractors that only get seasonal work).

If it were mine, regardless of warranty etc, I'd be getting it serviced in line with the manufacturers recommendation as a minimum - but then that's just me Thumbs Up
Post #493667 18th Jan 2016 1:39pm
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BarryT



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Wales 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
I'm going to be in a similar situation come next June when the first service is due. I took delivery last June and to date it's only done 850 miles, I will be taking it in as scheduled.

BarryT
Post #493787 18th Jan 2016 6:27pm
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anrw



Member Since: 18 Oct 2013
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Thanks for your comments. Having in the past had my servicing done by a non franchised LR specialist I thought I'd give the main dealer a chance with the 24 month/24,000 mile service. Their quote is an eye watering £775.22 including VAT. I know oil is expensive and main dealer labour rates are Northwards of £100 + Vat per hour but this struck me as excessive! How does this compare with the experience of others? Does anyone know the book time for a 24K service on a 2.2 Puma?

Regards
Post #493843 18th Jan 2016 8:16pm
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anrw



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Further to my earlier post am I right in believing that if servicing is carried out by non franchised specialists using approved oil and Genuine LR parts, then the main dealer can't refuse any subsequent warranty work reported within the time period and terms of the warranty?

Regards
Post #493848 18th Jan 2016 8:20pm
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chasthechippie



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As long as all genuine parts have been used they cannot refuse to carry out warranty work. You need a receipt for the work detailing all the parts used + remember there are no servicing books any more to stamp!
Post #493855 18th Jan 2016 8:41pm
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Jukathy



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2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
I have a 62 plate Defender.

You can have your service book stamped anyway if you still have one.

I also stretched my service periods but limited this to a few weeks or so.
Finally, Land Rover paid a costly warranty claim (DPF) just a few days before the end of warranty.

Just be aware that many things do not depend on kilometers but on time (e.g. brake fluid, batteries for the plips, ...)
Post #493925 18th Jan 2016 10:48pm
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Hi anrw

Thank you for your post.

I note your query and would advise that we would strongly recommend servicing your vehicle in accordance with the recommended service intervals. Should a vehicle not be serviced in accordance with the set guidelines and a concern arises with a serviceable component then the component in question may not be covered under the terms of the manufacturers warranty.

With reference to your query regarding parts used by non-franchised retailers, I can confirm that as long as genuine Land Rover parts are used and the vehicle serviced in accordance with our recommendations, this would not have any adverse effect on any potential future warranty claims.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Ryan
Post #494103 19th Jan 2016 4:24pm
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anrw



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Ryan
I appreciate your reply and I am now convinced as to the value of keeping up with the service schedule.
Regards
Post #494111 19th Jan 2016 4:53pm
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