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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609   
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Is anyone running these in there 110?
Koni 90-5374 (front) and 90-5375 (rear). My original shocks have basically worn out after 38,000km. I'm running Koni Heavy Duties in my Tdi 110 but thought the Raids might be better in the Puma, especially to help the back when towing off-road. 110 2.4TDCi 110 300Tdi 
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7th Oct 2009 12:48pm |
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| TallPaul Member Since: 28 Aug 2007 Location: Nr Reading Posts: 270 
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At £160 each, you would hope they were good!
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8th Oct 2009 2:29pm |
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| markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690  
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Yes thats the downside!
May just go for OME, which always seem a popular choice. |
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9th Oct 2009 8:58am |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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I won't get OME on anything again. They are a good, middle of the road shock but really only little better than the genuine. They fade very quickly in hot conditions and therefore aren't suitable for what I need. Koni Heavy Tracks and Bilsteins can stand the heat a lot better than OME and the Koni Raid are a level up again. 110 2.4TDCi
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9th Oct 2009 10:46am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626 
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I've got Bilsteins and had no problems with them, There is a big improvement from the standard set up, Well recommend them
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9th Oct 2009 11:09am |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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17th Oct 2009 7:18am |
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| markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690
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dm-td5 what sort of temperature did OME start to fade. Has anyone else had problems with these shocks.
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17th Oct 2009 12:46pm |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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The OME last about 2-3 hours on rough dirt tracks or soft sand in 40C temperatures. This was on my D1 and D2. I believe the Defender ones are slightly heavier build but the Koni's have a number of advantages one being the twin tube design means they can handle stone damage a lot better and they can definitely handle heat better.
Don't get me wrong I think OME shocks are quite OK and better than OEM LR ones but they can't handle constant use in high temperatures as well as Koni. 110 2.4TDCi 110 300Tdi
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17th Oct 2009 12:57pm |
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| markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690
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Thanks for that, dm-td5 not often above 40 over here but good to know for foreign trips.
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17th Oct 2009 8:16pm |
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| pantg Member Since: 24 Apr 2009 Location: GREECE Posts: 8 |
Fellow members Hi,
Here in Greece we have developed our own solution as far as it concers a really heavy duty set of shock absorbers and on the same time increased suspension travel but without having to resort to increasing the height of the vehicle. Our solution is based on the same principle design of the very heavy duty shock absorbers developed for the Discovery 3 (coil or air sprung) that were created out of necessity when a Greek journalist decided to travel around the world in a Land Rover sponsored coil sprung LR3. The shock absorbers were designed and made in Greece and after having travelled around Africa, Middle East, Asia, Australia are now in the middle of USA territory and still go strong without any problem (yes on the same set of shock absorbers despite the fact that the whole journey is being made using as much off road tracks as possible with minimal use of paved roads) So here in Greece the basis of construction principals of those shock absorbers was used to make shock absorbers for the other models of Land Rover vehicles. And of course Defenders. The second step was to created different shock absorber mounts. The Greek designed and made shock absorbers mounts are actually HIGHER (and not lower as everybody else is making them) so as to allow more travel of the shock absorber itself but without the necessity of lifting the bodyshell or chassis. You see here in Greece we do like our offroading, have lots of unpaved roads, lots of ditches and water holes to "swim" in and we have a dislike for topping over something which is not difficult when you increase the center of gravity of a fully ladden Land Rover by lifting its suspension. The results of the combination of the heavy duty shock absorbers and the higher shock absorber mounts give a perfect combination of controlled on road handling but without it being hard or bumpy (something that can not be said for the Bilstein or Konis), extremely good control when traveling on gravel with extremely minimized body roll but again without being hard or bumpy. And most of all a heavy duty suspension solution that does not rattle your bones, keeps the car in control from the driver and not from its mass and it does not need replacing every now and then. The shock absorbers are available in various heights (standard height if the factory shock absorbers mounts are retained or longer height if the higher ones are used) and with our without fitted or remote reservoirs (longer ones required the remote or fitted reservoirs) I am attacing a few photos of the kit as fitted to Defenders here in Greece (including my wife's D90 V 
[img]http://s308.photobucket.com/albums/kk340/pantg/?action=view¤t=shockabsorbersshockmountsHDapplicat.jpg[/img] [img]http://s308.photobucket.com/albums/kk340/pantg/?action=view¤t=Def2008rearLHsidenowheelview.jpg[/img] [img]http://s308.photobucket.com/albums/kk340/pantg/?action=view¤t=Def2008frontLHsidefrontview.jpg[/img] [img]http://s308.photobucket.com/albums/kk340/pantg/?action=view¤t=100_3924.jpg[/img] Take care [/img] Pantelis Giamarellos LAND ROVER CLUB OF GREECE (founder) www.lrcg.gr P.O. Box 9501 190 15 Oropos GREECE tel +30 6944 579911 e-mail: pantg@otenet.gr VISIT GREECE http://rapidshare.com/files/375009073/Visi...KkPpz-.pps |
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18th Oct 2009 9:54am |
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| TallPaul Member Since: 28 Aug 2007 Location: Nr Reading Posts: 270
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You need to use the link on the page to get the pic to show, not the page itself, to save some time:
Looks like neat solution :thumbsup: Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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19th Oct 2009 9:13am |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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If you think they are nice you should see the ones for the D3
... and the guy I met with them had managed to bend one. Can't understand how without bending the D3, but he got a free replacement.
They cost a packet and I'm sure would be very good. The one thing I'm not keen on though is the plastic sleeves. I have these type of covers on the Fox Shocks on my off-road camper trailer and they are something you continually have to watch that they haven't come loose, got torn etc. All well and good for competition work, but not for general travelling, especially on the back wheels of a Defender. 110 2.4TDCi 110 300Tdi
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19th Oct 2009 12:28pm |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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Well I went and bought the Puma a Christmas present. There's four of them and they are big and they are very red.
These are 90 series Koni Raid Dampers for the Puma. Stolen from Santa's sleigh. They weigh about 6kg's each. That's an Australian 50c piece on the top of one of them to give you an idea of the diameter. When I go to swap them over on the weekend I'll take a piccy with them next to the OEM one's. Click image to enlarge I suspect getting to the front shock towers on the Puma may be a little frustrating  110 2.4TDCi
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16th Dec 2009 7:09am |
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| dm_td5 Member Since: 20 Jul 2008 Location: Arnhem Land Posts: 609
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Here's a couple of comparative shots of the new and old shocks.
Rear's: Front shocks (the old front shock is on the left, the one on the right is a rear shock): You guys might be getting snow but I just spent half the day under an awning (for some shade) in 40C and about 92% humidity with hardly any cloud cover around. Can you send some of the snow this way. I had to go and review the snow pictures just to try and cool down. I think I've drunk about 15L of water today. 110 2.4TDCi 110 300Tdi
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19th Dec 2009 11:44am |
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