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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Tool help needed..
Hi all,
does anyone have the following tool I could rent for a weekend?
LR tool number : 308-701 LOCKING FIXTURE OUTPUT FLANGE RETAINER for the MT-82 gearbox output shaft.

I've got a blown oil seal somewhere between the main GB and transfer box..

Also, can anyone shed light on the part numbers for the seals needed?


Thanks in advance,
Paul. ... ,-------,
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PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
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dorsetsmith



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jlrequipment.service-solutions.com/en-GB/Pages/ItemDetail.aspx?SKU=308-701

http://cat.lrparts.ru/
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Shax



Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
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Ta for the link... Very Happy
I saw that one already, but as I may not even need it depending on what seal has blown, £74 plus vat n delivery is a tad expensive.. And it comes from Germany, so no guarantees it'll be here by Saturday..

The way tool prices are adding up, I may just ditch the 90 and get a bike! ... ,-------,
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.. I __ |"_|"__|
.. "(o)====(o)"
^^_-^-_^-^_^^^^^--^^^^
PAUL
G7ALW 14.200 USB
26FB458 / 27.275 SSB
Post #488310 3rd Jan 2016 9:29pm
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mark_d



Member Since: 07 Sep 2013
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2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
blackwolf wrote:
The essential parts are the "Flange - Drive" LR030054 and the "Shaft - Front" TUD500020. These together cost about £100 plus VAT. I strongly recommend also getting the following, since they are cheap and you don't want to get the tbox out and then find you need them.

Gearbox output oil seal "Seal - Oil" LR0058800
Bolt for flange "Bolt - Special" LR006096
Seal and clip for splined joint "Seal - Oil" TZB500140 and "Clip - Retaining" TYC500160.

These supplementary parts cost about £20 plus VAT.


You should also order LR078521 which is the grease for the splines, costs less than a pound.

I asked the main dealer in northern Ireland if they would rent me the tool, the response I got was that they don't have it and use the windy gun to remove and refit. I was surprised as they maintain the rather significant fleet of armoured land rovers for the PSNI.
I wasn't happy with that technique and considered making a tool for the job but ended up using an extra long chrome molybdenum 10mm spanner and a steel tube to lock into one of the notches on the flange. The flange rotates and the tube hits the chassis leg allowing the nut to be undone and properly torqued. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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I don't think that the grease had a part number when I wrote the original post you quoted (in fact I think it may have been before LR acknowledged that there was a need for grease)!

I am wary of the windy gun approach since (unless like you did, you do find a way to hold the 'cup' part of the joint) the forces are being taken by the gearbox and crank. I can't really see this being a good idea. I did invest in the tool, since although it would be easy enough to make one I figured that the cost was reasonable and was a sensible trade-off against the time taken to fabricate something, especially since you need to get the t-box off and the joint separated in order to measure up to make the tool. Ironic really that after that I didn't need to change my coupling anyway - at 150k miles it was tighter and less sloppy than the brand new spare I had bought!

I thought that the tool was actually on the list of mandatory tools that JLR main dealers are contractually required to have.
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mark_d



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Ironically it was my local Indy that gave me the part number for the grease.
When I ordered from Land Rover main dealer, they told me they had never sold that part number.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the windy gun at all on mine, it was all done with a breaker bar and torque wrench.

Thanks very much for the information I quoted, it was a great help. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
dorsetsmith wrote:
jlrequipment.service-solutions.com/en-GB/Pages/ItemDetail.aspx?SKU=308-701


Bosch (the only primary supplier of JLR special tools) is not really geared up for selling to private buyers. When I bought this and various other JLR tools I had to set up a trade account with them beforehand. Bosch was extremely helpful and can't be faulted, but it wasn't straightforward and wasn't especially quick.
Post #488654 4th Jan 2016 9:52pm
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