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Amos



Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
GOD this is a real mine field, of a question...

Everyone I speak to, give me a different answer....

The car is being leased over 3 years, it is a Defender 90 XS Station Wagon, I'm putting the fuel in myself and being payed for any business miles....!

Anyone know who could answer this 100%...!
Post #42576 13th Oct 2010 9:22am
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blue meanie



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yes (maybe) Very Happy the 90 SW is treated as a passenger vehicle as far as VAT and employee benefit in kind tax is concerned, so if you drive it as a company supplied vehicle then you will be liable for BiK on the list price (£28k ish) x 35% (as it is at 266g/km ? I think ) x your tax rate ( either 20 or 40% ) obviously offest by your personal allowance, so in a worst case scenario upwards of £300 per month Sad at which point it would be worth doing the sums to see if you would be better off taking an allowance instead and adding that to the tax you would pay (bearing in mind you can claim back some business related costs including insurance, servicing and the difference between what you get paid per mile such as 12ppm to 40ppm for up to 10k miles per annum from the taxman ) to see whether it would be worth doing it that way. The N1 classification is a bit misleading as even though it designates the vehicle as a commercial type the vatman and taxman take different views depending on configuration, load carrying capacity, how they are feeling at the time... etc etc
Post #42608 13th Oct 2010 4:27pm
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BigRuss



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Amos wrote:
GOD this is a real mine field, of a question...

Everyone I speak to, give me a different answer....

The car is being leased over 3 years, it is a Defender 90 XS Station Wagon, I'm putting the fuel in myself and being payed for any business miles....!

Anyone know who could answer this 100%...!


Well all I will say is, yes it is a mine field which I why I don't have a company car.

However get it right and you will enjoy many tax free happy miles. Very Happy

But get it wrong and the tax man will come down on you like a tonne of bricks! Big Cry

The best thing you can do is go see your accountant and let them sort it out for you. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #42611 13th Oct 2010 5:11pm
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BIGFOG



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
My understanding is that a CSW will be viewed as a car and you'll get clobbered. If you have a utility, ie, a load capacity of 1000 kilos and panelled out back window, like a van, then you make a great saving on the tax as I suggested before.
Post #42617 13th Oct 2010 6:00pm
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pom



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there is no 'view' as to whether its a car or van. The V5 defines it.

The only viable way to have a 'company' car is for your employer to up your salary by 3k or so a year and lease one yourself.

Pom
Post #42626 13th Oct 2010 7:36pm
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BIGFOG wrote:
My understanding is that a CSW will be viewed as a car and you'll get clobbered. If you have a utility, ie, a load capacity of 1000 kilos and panelled out back window, like a van, then you make a great saving on the tax as I suggested before.



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Post #42628 13th Oct 2010 7:41pm
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BIGFOG



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pom wrote:
there is no 'view' as to whether its a car or van. The V5 defines it.

The only viable way to have a 'company' car is for your employer to up your salary by 3k or so a year and lease one yourself.

Pom
Yes you're right, but you can have a Puma 110 Utility, which is classed as a van, but has five doors and five seats, so all the family can get in. If you bought a Puma 110 Station Wagon with the same identical five seats as the Utility version but with the addition of windows and quarterlights in the boot/loadspace area, then you have to cough up all the tax, or lease one as you say.....
Post #42632 13th Oct 2010 8:48pm
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pom



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BIGFOG wrote:
pom wrote:
there is no 'view' as to whether its a car or van. The V5 defines it.

The only viable way to have a 'company' car is for your employer to up your salary by 3k or so a year and lease one yourself.

Pom
Yes you're right, but you can have a Puma 110 Utility, which is classed as a van, but has five doors and five seats, so all the family can get in. If you bought a Puma 110 Station Wagon with the same identical five seats as the Utility version but with the addition of windows and quarterlights in the boot/loadspace area, then you have to cough up all the tax, or lease one as you say.....



That's because the latter is not classed as a van on the V5.

They are all vans now though Mr. Green

Pom
Post #42685 15th Oct 2010 7:24am
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ken



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Post #42686 15th Oct 2010 7:30am
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