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Happyoldgit



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Driving test - theory.
My lad has come home a bit down in the dumps tonight, he sat the theory test earlier today and failed [scored 41 when a pass is 43]. This is the second time he has taken it, last attempt he scored 39 so he is getting there slowly but is now really lacking confidence. His driving instructor reckons he is above pass level on the practical, and I'd agree with that, but I'm not sure how much support the guy is giving him with the theory. Lad has done loads of online and book revision plus lots of questions and answers with us but I reckon he needs to try a different tack.

So, recommendations for something like a good tutorial CD / DVD or books would be gratefully received. Steve.
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Ryderoo



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Hi Steve,

My theory is the UK driving tests are becoming increasingly difficult.

My youngest son (19) had 2 attempts at each he is an A level student and university graduate,

My eldest son (23) like me scraped through school and passed first time.

It does produce a revenue for the government.

My advice is to support him and encourage him for his next attempt. Cheers Simon

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custom90



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I did mine first time on this a while ago. 50/50 on questions and 63% of 75% HP.

I think the pass rates are 43 questions and 55% Hazzard Perception.

I used two Highway Code books, one for signs and the other just general. They are on Amazon quite cheap.

I also used mock tests on Apps by AA on an iPad or phone or similar.
There are also websites that cost a small amount of money to practice real mock tests.

The trouble is many people go straight into the theory thinking it'll be easy without practicing and revising it.

Most of it is just common sense and mental estimation as to stopping distances and signs etc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2...ghway+Code
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Pjembe



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My daughter has recently passed her test, but before she did she had some difficulty with her theory test. She was OK with the questions but the hazard perception section of the test caused her problems. She finally Sussed it that on some of the hazards you have to click on it several times for it to register. It seems to be a common area people have difficulty with.
I am sure if your lad has any particular questions, she would be happen to help.
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X4SKP



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Hello Miserableolgit

Looks like a few of us are going through this...

My daughter passed her Theory Test (just) before heading off to University
and she has her Driving Test booked over the Christmas break.

She did all of her preparation on-line...with the majority on the Government DVSA Site...
https://www.gov.uk/practise-your-driving-theory-test

There are lots of resources on line, but two useful sites are...
http://toptests.co.uk/
http://www.driving-test-success.com/

Good Luck... SKIP
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RobKeay



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Have done lgv a few years ago and motorbike this year. Just used a theory test app. But did help being a driver already.

We have some young ones at work who have been a few times. They just don't seem to revise enough. Get the book and just keep asking random questions at any point during the day. Maybe text a few questions.
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RobKeay



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Also for my motorbike one I re read the Highway Code a couple of times.

I really think everyone should do a theory test every ten years. Certainly keeps you on your toes
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Happyoldgit



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Thanks guys. There's been no lack of revision in his case and while he was confident the first time he wasn't at all like that yesterday - quite the opposite in fact. He has been using The Official DVSA Theory Test for Car Drivers and the Dept Transport Know Your Traffic Signs and both copies are now well and truly dog eared. As for online resources one or two of those listed ring a bell.

He left the notifiaction of failure with me today so I can see he scored 41 for the multiple choice and 66 for hazzard perception. He booked another test in 3 weeks time, in fact there was a free slot today but he didn't fancy going for it so soon Laughing Steve.
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Like so many things, I think it's a chicken and egg scenario. It's wise that new drivers do a theory test before hitting the open road, yet ironically so much about understanding how theory applies to the road is gleaned from practice being on them. If he's good practically, get him in the car just crunching the miles and test him every time you're with him on each road sign, junction, practical scenario until the knowledge becomes as close to instinctive as it can be for a young driver. It's all common sense, but only if you've had the chance to practice, learn and apply. Up until that point it is all exactly what it says on the tin, theoretical...if you catch my drift. Shocked

Whatever, good luck to him... Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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custom90



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I'm sure he'll get there. Thumbs Up

Afterwards dont hang about too long as it's valid for two years.

I passed my practical 3 days before expiry! Shocked
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jimbob7



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So the less people pass the "test" the less people on the road..thats a good thing.Too many car drivers on the road = more congestion..Simples.The test should be 10 times as hard,Ultra simples. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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custom90



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You wouldn't be saying that if re-testing came into being or if you were a modern day 17 year old.

Any more than 6 points applied to the licence with in the first two years of holding the licence and you're back where you started with no licence.
Probably have to take an extended 90 minute test rather than a 45 minute one.

My examiner was a nice lady. Whistle Embarassed Whistle

So just two speeding offences or two tyre's with below legal standard of tread depth and that's enough.
Number plate offences if caught just once nay scrape through and get away with it providing the officer is happy.
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The problem today is your taught how to pass a test NOT how to drive Big Cry
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custom90



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Very true, there is zero rural driving what so ever.
Nothing regarding horses or livestock on roads.
Nothing on fording flooding, ice snow etc.
List goes on.
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X4SKP



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Hello Miserableolgit

Your son will get there...good idea not to rush back in, take stock and go again... Thumbs Up

Hopefully not too far off topic...this does raise the question of how it is best to be taught.

I like the idea of Theory then Test...my test (1978 in a rain storm at Farnborough) predates this route
(by a long way) and then a few questions from the Highway Code were a bit of a Joke, things had improved somewhat when I took my Motorcycle Test in 1996 with the CBT (off road) before any on road tuition.

When I passed my Driving Test I had driven almost 4000 miles in the 3 months since my 17 birthday,
all with my Father, on passing he then 'suggested' that we both did our Advanced Driving Test...which we
got round to 18 months later, (he saw that I thought I knew everything already... Exclamation )

What's was missing for me was any proper instruction to use a Motorway (until the Advanced Driving Course).

Also in the early years I had next to No experience Off Road and almost None in proper Snow and Ice.

Like most I picked it up as I went along, with the odd Driving Day here and there.

I also like the idea of a compulsory 12 months display of...



Good Luck Son of 'MOG' SKIP
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