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Hairysteve



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TRAINING: How to maintain your defender?
In 2 years or so I will be 50 Neutral and the family and I are planning a 2-3 week offroad drive from UK into Morocco and back.

Alas I have had a sheltered life with all my previous cars being maintained by the stealers and as such my mechanic skills are woefully poor.

To help me over this hump I am tinkering, reading (Haynes book and everything I can on the forums plus YouTube), looking in and under the landy and learning. BUT, to accelerate the learning curve I was wondering if any of you know of or have attended a course on how to maintain your landy at home and in remote locations.

I have sockets/spanners and loads of enthusiasm but my skills levels, with 1 being rubbish and 10 being god level are:
Taking things off and putting back with sockets/spanners etc - 6
Using my multimeter - 7
Following LR electrical diagrams - 1
Using multimeter + electrical diagrams - 3
Understanding how mechanical things work (today) - 3
How to fix mechanical things - 2
Getting dirty - 10
Enthusiasm - 10

I am open to all feedback/suggestions so please don't be shy in responding Rolling with laughter
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Go and off-road your car enthusiastically and you will accelerate your repair skills learning rapidly Laughing
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X4SKP



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OK Hairysteve...I'll chip in

2 years until your 2-3 week trip is easily enough time, if you're right, and enthusiasm is high.

1. Fully Service your own Defender, this exercise alone will take you through the basics.
(most people learn by doing....doing this will a prove that it is still possible to service a Defender)
2. Research and buy a box of bits to take as spares.
3. Take off and refit each of the existing parts, you have in your spares box.
(getting close up to the 'vulnerable' bits will progressively 'trip prepare' your Defender,
it will also ensure that the tools you need, are in your tool box!).
4. Research your trip, where are the real risks, remote, no contact, no service / help options...etc
5. A 2-3 week trip, has little risk getting to and from Morocco (this time could easily be used just getting
there and back), how long in Morocco?, main issues there is possible lack of fuel (and quality) and water
if you really do go 'drive about'.
6. Research and read what others have done, (change a wheel on loose sand)
7. Vehicle recovery...what might you need to do... do it before you need to.
8. Whole thing may go without issue, but knowing you can do a few things yourself is a + SKIP
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GREENI



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Try find a local guy who's restoring or building a Defender, take biscuits and volunteer to help.
Or, if you have an independent, ask for a Saturday job...passing spanners and making brews, in exchange for lessons.

This may sound silly, but I'd have loved help and pass on some tips. I'm mates with a load of comp safari racers, I learnt a lot by helping them build their comp motors when I was in my 20's.
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Other way to go would be look at local adult education courses - my area sends out a newspaper every year listing all the various courses. There's always several levels of car courses and welding as well.
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AndyS



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Where abouts in Morocco? If you're staying in the built up areas, give or take, then I wouldn't worry about breakdowns. Although it's a long way it's not out of the civilised world. Update your (or get) breakdown cover to cover the whole of Europe which will cover most of your journey for not much money.

Alternatively, get yourself on one of them organised trips you see in the back of Land Rover Owner where they send you off in a small pack of Defenders and have your accommodation pre-booked. Someone in the pack will be up on their mechanical skills. Very Happy
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Hairysteve



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Thanks for the replies Thumbs Up

At this moment we plan to do a few organised events and in a year make a call if we can/want to do it alone so will have to see how it all goes. At the end of the day it isnt just the repairing side of the trip I need to work on but also how to drive better in offroad conditions, storage solutions, camping (what to take and what to leave behind and also keep the family smiling Whistle

AJS tyres is up the road for me so will ask I can be tea boy Thumbs Up

Cheers

Steve
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GREENI



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A good source is to check the forum on Expedition Portal....everything you need.
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Hairysteve



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Thanks Skip, some very useful info there!
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Guy



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Steve

Phone Ben at Black Paw 4x4. Based in York he is a trek from Surrey, but he runs a bush mechanic's workshop. Combine with some laning in Yorkshire, job's a good 'un! 
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GREENI wrote:

Or, if you have an independent, ask for a Saturday job...passing spanners and making brews, in exchange for lessons.

I might ry this, great idea, I've got a local indie that's very friendly, they've just done a full service on mine and I was pleased with what they'd done plus I got along well with them, I might ask to tag along for a couple of days.
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Dave_S



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Buy a big roll of tank tape and some cable ties.

When we started overlanding we used to bring spare diffs, half shafts, you name it. Never used a damn thing fixing my own truck, though we helped a few others out on occasion. Now we travel light - service it properly before you go and carrier consumables (bulbs, fuses, etc). That's about it, really. If something small breaks, you limp home, if something big goes (transfer box, say) then you're in a different world and all the self-help stuff will be pretty much irrelevant without parts.

Just IMHO course.... Thumbs Up
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