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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967  
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my neighbour just bought a new land cruiser bloody massive thing!!! My 109 thread
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4th Sep 2015 10:08pm |
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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967
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i nearly bought an amazon before the defender, still like them
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4th Sep 2015 10:25pm |
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| Dave_S Member Since: 27 Apr 2015 Location: UK Posts: 55 |
TBH I love both - the Defender is iconic, fun, etc... but it is horribly built, unreliable and expensive. Producing a 20k + vehicle in the late 2000s/2010s that rust within the first few years of manufacture is frankly unacceptable by any standard. Cruisers are similarly expensive - but the build quality and reliability is remarkable. I've owned many, many 4x4s, but the 80 series cruiser is a true icon.
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4th Sep 2015 10:30pm |
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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3785  
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In Aussie, the Toyota Landcruiser is the 4WD "benchmark", it is the vehicle by which all others are judged, and they are IMMENSELY popular in Aus. We are on the road at the moment, we've seen literally squillions of them, some towing huge caravans,.....but we haven't seen a single Defender! Pickles. |
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4th Sep 2015 10:48pm |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
[quote="Dave_S"]TBH I love both - the Defender is iconic, fun, etc... but it is horribly built, unreliable and expensive. Producing a 20k + vehicle in the late 2000s/2010s that rust within the first few years of manufacture is frankly unacceptable by any standard. Cruisers are similarly expensive - but the build quality and reliability is remarkable. I've owned many, many 4x4s, but the 80 series cruiser is a true icon.
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The cheapest entry landcruser is £35000! each to their own but i equate a land cruser to a range rover so on that basis i am out! |
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5th Sep 2015 3:00am |
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| rover Member Since: 26 May 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 146
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For some reason toyota doesn't sell the true land cruiser in the uk. If you visit South Africa or Australia there are loads of cheaper, utility, basic 4x4 trucks that would be natural competition for the defender. That's why sales in these countries of the defender are so low. They sell a hilux based station wagon which I would love to own , a modern version of the hilux surf.
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5th Sep 2015 5:56am |
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| CatherineF Member Since: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 762
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Went to look at a Q3 today (I do quite often buy without seeing or driving the car), did that with a Freelander and the Defender.
Obviously very nice. I'm leasing the Q3, well you wouldn't expect me to do anything less when I run a a leasing Department for our dealership and thankfully service and maintenance is going to be VWFS issue. I'm sure the Defender will find a good home, it's certainly a very sorted and nice spec truck. 2015 Audi Q3 Quattro S Line Plus 184 TDI Stronic 2010 90 SMC Over Land Nero Edition - Santorini Black Metallic (Now Departed) |
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5th Sep 2015 7:47pm |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
I am surprised you lasted so long if you bought a defender without driving it beforehand!I hope your defender goes to someone who will appreciates it!
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5th Sep 2015 8:21pm |
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| CatherineF Member Since: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 762
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Funnily enough, we actually like the drive, brakes of course could be better but other than that it's pretty good considering it spends it's life on the M4. Also does 30 mpg day in day out. 2015 Audi Q3 Quattro S Line Plus 184 TDI Stronic
2010 90 SMC Over Land Nero Edition - Santorini Black Metallic (Now Departed) |
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5th Sep 2015 9:24pm |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242
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After having had 3 of the things I'm now well and truly over them! But the cook loves it so my hopes of a D4 have been put on the back burner..... maybe I need a new cook.
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