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one_iota



Member Since: 06 May 2008
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dullbird wrote:


hey mahn we got one fo these on order..........through oppositelock.

not bloody going through this again Sad


Do you know what model filter?

Is that Gordon Shaw's OL? Mahn
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CapeLandy



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Getting Nervouse
This line of conversation is making me nervouse as hell.
Is there any advise for those of us that have been driving in water but not yet any seriose problems?
I did have the vehicle back for a drive train knock and the lady that phone me to collect said that the technician had also done a software update but when I arrived to fetch the vehicle the technician said he did no such thing.
After driving home I noted that the motor sounded more like a TD5 at idle than it did before. Hope this is not a sign of water and rather a software thing. (not sure though who was telling the truth)

we have done a fair bit of riding very wet dirt roads.

Is there any checks I can do at home regarding fuel filters to be removed and checked without the dealer getting involved just yet?

Thanks
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #2828 21st Jul 2008 11:13am
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Andrew Klimacki



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capelandy

Now i am no mechanic and certainly no LR expert but i was shown a fuel filter under the driver side (oops Right hand drive vehicle) rear wheel arch. There is a filter protected by a metal cover. Remove the cover and there is a bleed nibble to drain the filter and that, apparently, is where the water, if any should be. i have not done this myself but presumably checking this regularly will reassure you about water getting into the system if there is any and i assume prevent in getting further into the engine where the damage will be caused. The cover is a bit awkward to remove but once you know where you are should be easy enough.

Agree the talk of water contamination is a cause for concern even to me and most of our driving is on pretty good roads but read the posts and stay on line because there does seem to be some good advice over the ether.

All the best

AK
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chalky



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great after Reading this now I have paranoia !

At least I will know what to look out for ?

And I too totally agree that anti stall is excellent !
I have driven defenders in the most inhospitable places on earth from the Arctic Circle to Afghanistan !
I know for a fact I can drive off road ! I can even do this when it rains lead hornets !
I've also rolled a couple and worse but that's got nothin to do with the Anti Stall Technology ! DEFENDER XS CSW 08 TONGA GREEN
Post #2838 21st Jul 2008 8:18pm
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CapeLandy



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thanks
thanks Mate

I will have a look this evening at draining some (hopefully only diesel) out of the filter (RHS) wheel arch.

I also noticed a lot of you guys changing gearboxes because of the rattle sound.
I have the same but only at low revs and is more like a diesel noise or similar to a petrol car that pinks when revving too low in a gear. Can this be or definately gearbox related?

Cheers
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #2841 22nd Jul 2008 5:18am
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Andrew Klimacki



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Capelandy

Not sure, but a 'knocking' sound/noise could also be related to fuel injectors not being 100% which may have been effected by fuel contamination as a result of water getting into the system. Some of the posts early on page 1 of this thread make for helpful reading. So a fuel injector check might be helpful for you although probably not a 5 minute job and probably fairly specialised/specific kit required.

AK
Post #2847 22nd Jul 2008 12:49pm
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CapeLandy



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Done Mine
I checked my breather and relocated to behind splash panel.
I reakno that little brether does not work well so am not convinced it will help much in new poistion.
If you want to see where I put it see this link

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/Landy1973/FuelBreather/

There was a smaal amount of silt and water in the fuel I drained from the filter so it wasn't enogh to worry too much.
I think from now on I am going to do regular checks to make sure I don't have same nasty surprises as you guys.

Cheers
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #2858 22nd Jul 2008 5:54pm
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mse



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i put the picture of mine on here some time ago:

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 Mike
Post #2859 22nd Jul 2008 6:07pm
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Andrew Klimacki



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Capelandy

Thanks for your shots, in particular the ones of the bled fuel filter. The water/diesel ratio was similar to mine, mine was probably more water, but it still did cause us to come to a grinding halt so i think that filter is something not to be ignored and to be checked regularly.

AK
Post #2863 22nd Jul 2008 9:35pm
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CapeLandy



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Andrew

Surely it would need a lot more water to carry over into the rest of the system?
To me that seemed like only a little water. +- 40ml
By the way only the light brown part is the water, the lighter above is clean diesel.
James Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong


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Post #2864 23rd Jul 2008 5:08am
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CapeLandy



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mse wrote:
i put the picture of mine on here some time ago:

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Where does that piece of extension pipe run to and did you add something on the end? Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #2865 23rd Jul 2008 5:12am
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Andrew Klimacki



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James

I suppose the fact is i am not sure, but our fuel was pretty much 50/50 at the time on the occasion we came to a halt. i am only going by the sample given to us by the garage and that may have actually come out of the fuel tank. But i will be checking the filter in the next couple of days and let you know.

Andrew
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CapeLandy



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I only drained until I got only clean diesel and did not empty the whole filter so the sample only shows a small amount but the water being the heavier did not necessitate draining the whole filter. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #2867 23rd Jul 2008 6:10am
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mse



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at minute it goes up to the top of the light cluster and into a U - when i get round to it it will probably be moved to the engine bay. Mike
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one_iota



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mse wrote:
i put the picture of mine on here some time ago:

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Mine (just picked up) is a May 2008 build and the breather is nowhere to be seen which is good in the sense that LR in its wisdom has moved it from here Very Happy . Bad in the sense that I don't know where they've put it Shocked Mahn
'08 Defender 110
ex '95 Disco 300 Tdi
www.aulro.com


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