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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967  
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hi lift and trolly for me
 also carry a single axle stand My 109 thread
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14th Jul 2015 9:31pm |
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| AndyTunn Member Since: 10 Jan 2015 Location: Auckland Posts: 313  
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Mine (2008 NZ spec) has the original long pillar type bungeed behind the cross brace. It's a pain to get out, slow to use, and rattly too!
I'd like to replace this with a bottle jack but have noticed that the Defender / Disco type has a kind of U fitting on the top, rather than the button top that most after-market ones come with. Presumably this makes it more secure when jacking up an axle? Does that mean that I have to look for an ex-Disco jack? Or are there U-shape adapters available? |
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14th Jul 2015 11:30pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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There is an alternative in the hydraulic bottle jack that came with Mercedes Sprinter vans.
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14th Jul 2015 11:36pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 809 
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Take a deep breath Dora! Health and Safety have to try and protect the inept against their own stupidity, so yes, some of the 'guidance' might seem a bit overbearing or unnecessary to most of us. I suppose once you have pulled a few bodies from under vehicles where the victim has been trying to change a gearbox while the car is supported on a high lift type jack you would also come to the conclusion that high lift jacks are dangerous? Jacking with a high lift jack can go very wrong very quickly. I use one as the only jack in the vehicle but have a large trolley jack and solid axle stands for maintenance purposes. I treat the Hi-Lift with suspicion every time I use it, it stops me making mistakes. Those Mercedes jacks are great. I have run a few Merc vans in the past so used them a fair bit. If my memory serves me correctly they have a dual stage ram so will lift very high, but they are quite tall to begin with and I can't remember if they fit under the rear axle tube on the vans when the tyre is flat. I seem to remember you have to jack under the leaf spring or the front spring mount. Need to check it will fit under the axle of a Defender with a flat tyre or else it will be of no use. |
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15th Jul 2015 8:32am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605 
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It certainly used to be the case that Station Wagons had a bottle jack, and non SW had the screw/ratchet jobbie.
The Merc Sprinter jacks have been known to go "phut" when lifting a Disco  Mine did   1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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15th Jul 2015 8:59am |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 809
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Never heard of that or experienced it myself and I used to be on a Mercedes owner forum that had an active commercial/van section. The Mercedes jack should be more than capable of lifting any landrover product as the back axle of a Sprinter is rated to about 2.3 tonnes and they are often overloaded beyond that so the jacks will regularly be used to lift one end of an axle that has 2.5 to 3 tonnes on it. I can't think of a Landrover that will have that on one axle? |
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15th Jul 2015 10:23am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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Slightly back OT (sorry!) my 2011 110 HT came with a two stage bottle jack bungee-d in by the battery. It's got Land Rover branding and is referred to in the manual.
It really confused me to start with because I couldn't unscrew the top like you usually can with a bottle jack and it wouldn't reach the axle. Then I found if I pumped a bit more it got longer and it was just that the stop stage (which I hadn't realised was there) was a bit stuck. |
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15th Jul 2015 11:46am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605
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Quite a few reported cases on DISCO3 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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15th Jul 2015 11:54am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17383 
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The "U"-shaped adaptor is provided because the approved jacking point on a coil-sprung Landrover is under the radius arm, towards the axle end of the arm. The bottom of the radius arm isn't flat, so the "U" makes the jack safe. A standard button-head jack isn't really suitable for this. The Disco jack is the same as that supplied for the Defender, and they come up often on Ebay, often at a very good price. They are also quite good quality, generally better than the cheapish aftermarket bottle jacks. I managed to flatten out the "U"-shaped head of my Disco jack some years ago doing an emergency spring change on Thomas the Tank Engine during a Thomas event at a steam railway. Although the "U" became more of a "_" during the job, perhaps surprisingly the jack had no trouble unloading the spring enough to knock the pin connecting the spring buckle to the axle out and drop the spring. This is on a full-size, 50-ton steam loco! It was rather harder to rebend the top of the jack afterwards than it had been to straighten it, though. Good jacks, I rate them rather highly! |
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15th Jul 2015 11:58am |
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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705
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Hmmm...
Think I might have to look under my second row seats and see which type of jack I have. Fortunately haven't had to use it yet and foolishly assumed LR would have provided the most suitable tool for the job... 2005 110 XS - Cairns Blue "Bertha" - Gone, and sorely missed |
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15th Jul 2015 12:21pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605
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Also check in underseat storage
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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15th Jul 2015 12:44pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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Mine was fitted with a similar item only in black when I bought it, fastened next to the battery . Also have Hi Lift in the back. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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15th Jul 2015 12:53pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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Hello custom90steve
I asked around on this question some time back http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic26904-15.html Mine came with the standard LR Bottle Jack under the front passenger seat. I have tested this and it's OK up to a point, definitely worth carrying an axle stand and a few wooden blocks to make the job easier (and safer). Don't fancy the prospect of really using this at the side of the road...(in the rain...  )
Off road the hi-lift jack (in the right hands) is a useful bit of kit. I ended up with a 2.5 ton Trolley Jack, and with a few Oak Sleepers cut down to size you can progress with confidence for most jobs. Click image to enlarge or maybe you just don't need a Jack at all ? (love this image / courtesy of Supacat) Click image to enlarge SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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15th Jul 2015 2:02pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Click image to enlarge "Jack is rather special in that he has all the benefits of a high-lift: he can lift heavy things really high, without all the scary, negative bits of being a mechanical high-lift. You can lift things a millimetre at a time, lower things just as minutely and carefully as you would with a hydraulic jack. Plus there are a tonne of features to go with him!" Click image to enlarge "There’s a forged (not cast) quick-release foot to line up with your jacking point, the pivoting foot is designed to assist with breaking tyre beads, the body is aircraft-grade aluminium and fully anodised, plus the nitride shaft is military grade – meaning it’s durable, seal friendly and damn strong. It’s also got a teardrop shape to increase body strength, an integrated retaining clip for the handle, a body bumper so it doesn’t damage your paintwork, and a four-bar slider linkage for mechanical advantage and leverage. Oh, and it also comes with its own heavy-duty carry bag (yep, really). Jack’s rated to 2,000kg (tested at over 4,000kg) and will lift that 2,000kg from 160mm off the ground right up to 1,230mm – surpassing the typical 48-inch high-lift jack by a solid foot. Pricing for Jack is set at $995.00 (based on east coast metro pricing). We’re not certain when these beauties will be available just yet… but ARB has promised us soon!" Click image to enlarge https://mr4x4.com.au/direct-arbs-design-la...ter+%23205 |
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