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| wildcamper Member Since: 25 May 2014 Location: Lockerbie Posts: 112   
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25 years of delivering everything you own, eat and wear, trying not to kill people when they make stupid decisions thinking i can stop or swerve 44tons like a mini , helping people when they are in trouble and realise they suddenly like truckers, but mostly just getting away from it in my Landy with fellow enthusiasts, I'm totally Gutted to find that i get called vermin and low life on here please take your prejudiced views else where . The fact is trucks have speed limiters , catching another truck that is slower even if it is only slightly is not fun we don't won't to sit overtaking for 10 minutes but thats the way it is , not our fault , and before you say just don't overtake then ask yourself why you want to overtake,why don't you just sit behind the car in front every time you go on the A1 . Sorry to anyone reading this but years of this s**t gets to me
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18th Jun 2015 6:57pm |
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| jollymuckshifter Member Since: 10 Dec 2011 Location: Chester le Street Posts: 120  
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Well said |
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18th Jun 2015 7:31pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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I've been both the person getting annoyed whilst stuck behind something, and the person with things stuck behind me, though a tractor rather than a truck. I don't like being stuck behind a tractor, so when I do have someone behind me I pull over if I can safely do so. The amount of times I've let a car past only to then find that it then drives slower than I was going before really gets on my nerves.
Anyway. Spookytooth: I think "vermin" and "low life" are rather harsh words... wildcamper: "we don't won't to sit overtaking for 10 minutes but thats the way it is , not our fault , and before you say just don't overtake then ask yourself why you want to overtake,why don't you just sit behind the car in front every time you go on the A1" Speed limit for lorries on the A1 would be 60? but you're limited to 56. Speed limit for cars is 70. If your truck is about 20m long, and you leave a bit of a gap front and behind, say you need 25m to pass. Ten minutes to overtake, that's 150 meters per hour differential speed, or 0.09MPH. You travel 0.09 miles in less than ten seconds at 56MPH. You're gaining a potential ten seconds by doing that overtake. In that same ten minutes, the car travelling at 70 could have gained nearly two and a half miles on you. That said, on the A47 I just sit behind the trucks. If you do decide to overtake you're only going to get stuck behind the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and have steam coming out of your ears. Lorries coming to our yard will still get welcomed with a smile, directions to the toilet, somewhere to park up for lunch or an offer of somewhere to sleep for the night and directions to the pub if it's late.  |
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18th Jun 2015 7:45pm |
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| Farmerbush Member Since: 06 Jan 2014 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 3  
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Those of us who choose to sit behind patiently and wait ultimately live for longer...
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18th Jun 2015 8:04pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507 
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Spookytooth ... Harsh - But fair
While some drivers are fairly considerate and try not to hog lanes whilst attempting the long overtake, alas there are many who don't give a toss and sit alongside another truck for bloody miles!! Likewise the tossers who overtake another truck [eventually] only for said truck to overtake them a few minutes later, and again, and again .... pointless! And for the record, No prejudice here - I'm a C+E holder myself Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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18th Jun 2015 8:16pm |
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| Cuthbert Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Up North Posts: 1535 |
Truckers are just like Defender owners and bikers - they encompass a broad church - from the lunatic fringe to the Captain Sensibles.
Now what was the maths about what distance a truck travelling at 50 mph requires to overtake a truck travelling at 48 mph? I've sat behind and observed some amazingly long overtaking moves all because one truck can do 2 or 3 mph more than another. As an occasional horse rider on the road - I'd rather be passed by a HGV than someone in a black Vauxhall Corsa with a loud exhaust and an even louder music system. |
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18th Jun 2015 8:26pm |
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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1032 
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Good and bad in all camps , live and let live !☺️
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18th Jun 2015 9:21pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 
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Oh dear you got held up. Must be awful. Can't we just talk about land rovers that are here now and the bright potential future.
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18th Jun 2015 9:25pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Calling all lorry drivers vermin?? Really?
Now should I call all car drivers vermin? What about the car drivers who drive in lane 1 on a motorway at about 50mph forcing lorry drivers to overtake? Or the car drivers sat in lane 2 with a clear lane 1. Now when I am towing a 3.5 tonne trailer I am limited to 60 mph, I can not go into the outside lane to overtake, can not go into lane 1 to undertake and am prohibited to tailgate/use horn/flash lights etc Or the car driver who overtakes me and then slows down so I have to overtake to keep a stead speed up. Or the car drive goes into say the clear left turning lane to the end then force their way into the right turning lane. Or the car driver who cuts fro lane 3 and just makes the exit causing heavy braking if not collisions on the motorway. So are all car drivers vermin? ALL road users should use the roads with due consideration for other road users. Brendan |
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18th Jun 2015 9:59pm |
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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705
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Truckers who overtake each other constantly, especially on a road with only two lanes: -100 points.
Truckers who block idiots from sneaking up the hard shoulder or closing lanes on M-way: +50 points. Truckers who pull into middle lane to allow a TD5 110 driver to get on the M-way off a short slip: +50 points. I'd say my experience puts them about evens! |
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18th Jun 2015 10:49pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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In certain European countries lorries are banned from overtaking say between 06.00-19.00 . This also applies to cars towing caravans, coaches etc.
The actual restriction applied varies from one section of road to another section as conditions can vary. Also on Sunday only essential lorry journeys are allowed. Germany is having to build massive lorry parks alongside its major roads as well. I am not sure that the German restrictions would work on long sections of the A1 however Brendan |
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18th Jun 2015 11:48pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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We are all too crowded on this small island
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19th Jun 2015 5:21am |
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| Spookytooth Member Since: 19 Jan 2014 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 202 
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OK, lets clear the air. I have cremated the Defender, booked into a monastery, I am wearing sackcloth and ashes and most importantly I have taken the Holy Order not to post on the forum after drinking Jennings Cumberland (or whatever it was called)
I want to make it clear that I have nothing but respect for all our drivers out there, delivery drivers, long distance haulage, white van man and even the driver of the post office van who reversed full speed into the brick pillar at the end of our drive and knocked it down By way of mitigation I was in an Audi and therefore my solemn duty to drive up the outside lane at 95mph flashing everyone else to move out my way I also notice that I was way behind the issue and that it had been covered in a far more balanced way by Autocar who even had a name for it 'Elephant racing' http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/3373...ant-racing |
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19th Jun 2015 10:26am |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888 
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Some sections of the A1 already have this restriction, a 7.5 tonne limit in lane 2, some of which are only operable between specific times (7am to 7pm if I remember the signs correctly). It's only for short stretches though, where bottlenecks can occur. As I understand it the biggest problem is not that the trucks are limited to a specific speed, it's just that as a result of the "limiter" heavier trucks are faster downhill and slower uphill than lighter trucks so a heavily laden truck will catch the lighter laden one on the downhill stretches and pull out to overtake but when they get to an uphill bit they lose their speed advantage and end up taking forever (if ever) to overtake. In terms of journey times and ease of driving, the most frustrating truck drivers are those that, due to the above, spend 5 minutes or more seesawing with the other truck then eventually give up and pull back in behind. They achieved nothing except to form a long queue behind them that they then get annoyed at because those queueing aren't about to let another lorry out in front of them ! There are lots of annoying and/or inconsiderate/unobservant drivers out there though and they drive and ride many different types of vehicles. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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19th Jun 2015 12:01pm |
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