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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665   
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I have some std rear shocks somewhere (taken off at ~8000 miles).
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic16202.html?highlight=shock Yours for a tenner (if I can find them). I see your "North West", I work in Lytham St Annes every 2nd Tuesday...Meet up for free, or you pay postage (if you want them)   Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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6th Feb 2015 8:56pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5866 
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Did you replace the springs as well? if so, from standard to ?? 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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6th Feb 2015 9:02pm |
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| NickH Member Since: 01 Nov 2014 Location: Halifax Posts: 204  
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Hi
If you look on ebay there are puma take off new springs, I cant remember who it was I got mine from. The 90 stationwagon rear springs are high load springs (pick ups and hard tops arent  and are the same part as 110 heavy duty fronts, they work really well and dont lift the front end above standard.
As for rears I would fit standard 110 rears and if needed a small 30-40mm spacer  2003 Td5 90
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6th Feb 2015 10:02pm |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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Martin
If he doesn't have the shocks I will - I could meet you in St. Anne's 
Stephen |
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6th Feb 2015 10:03pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5866
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So maybe 110hd up front then and standard springs at the rear?
What is standard height? 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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7th Feb 2015 1:41pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2108 
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I'm thinking it's time to look at the shocks/springs on my 2004 90 CSW (stimulated by a conversation with the MOT Inspector).
I've read some interesting and not so positive threads/comments about some of the high-profile and more commonly known shock/spring manufacturers which has thrown me a little, as I was heading down a particular route, and it is now making me think (it happens occasionally.....).... What are the pros and cons of keeping the set up standard OEM? I've read a few comments about saggy springs and inherently poor ride quality from the factory. I don't know any different as it's on its originals. I use the Landy mainly on the Tarmac with the occasional green lane (for Granny's). I know some of this topic is very subjective but I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences. I just want to do it once and do it right. Cheers, Will |
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3rd May 2015 7:05am |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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I don't have time to write a full reply - but briefly I'd say don't discount the standard stuff.
Land Rover over a very wide range of springs that you can pick from to tailor your ride - they are well made and reasonably priced. If you think yours are over 10 years old now. There isn't the range of standard shocks, but they are decent quality for a reasonable price. |
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3rd May 2015 7:42am |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 
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@Will - I have a 2005 Td5 90 CSW and have so far fitted Koni heavy track shocks all round and, more recently, had all the bushes replaced with original OEM bushes. Firstly, fitting the Konis made no difference at all to the ride. It is ever so slightly better damped (as you would expect), but it's barely noticeable. When the Konis were fitted I started getting a knocking from the back end, which I think was due to warn lower bushes. Unfortunately the guy I used to fit the Konis in the first place wasn't really up to the job, he was just a jobbing Land Rover mechanic with little experience of anything 'non-standard' so the shocks weren't really set up properly (washers missing / wrong way round, old bushes put back on etc.) Anyway, after living with the knocking for a few months thinking 'I must do something about that' I took it to another LR specialist who had a good look underneath and said that most of the bushes looked fairly past it. Not surprising given it's 10 years old and doubt it has ever had any replaced. So decided to replace the lot with OEM (decided against polybush / SuperPro after reading many many threads on the subject). Replacing the bushes made a massive difference to general clonking / rattling. There is now no noise at all from the suspension. The ride is slightly worse than it was due to the new bushes having less 'give' than the worn ones. So I am now contemplating further options! But thinking I will look into changing the springs when funds allow and probably start with Extreme who seem to have had good feedback from a few members here. I read a lot of threads that extolled the virtues of just changing your shocks to significantly improve ride quality, but for me it didn't work. I don't regret it as I know I now have a good quality set of dampers which will work well in whatever set up I end up with, but they make very little difference to the ride quality. It's still very much on the 'extremely firm' side of things! 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
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3rd May 2015 4:53pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1431 
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Will - Tyre pressures can make a big difference, as well as being loaded or not. I run Bilstein B6's which for my needs are excellent, they are on the hard side, and settle down after a few miles. For smooth roads and speed I can't fault them. on poor back roads at pottering speed they can be a bit harsh, press the loud pedal and they do what you want and when towing they are the Nuts.. I replaced my OEM ones at 88000 miles as they were tired to say the least. The new one I drove the other day was alot more giving and smoother and there is always a supply of new take offs for not alot of £.
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3rd May 2015 5:22pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2108
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It's good to hear the feedback on experiences and specifications.
Far too many choices for my liking! I won't rush in to anything but it looks like OEM might be a strong option for my circumstances. Something to think about I guess and I'll have to do a bit more researching reading. Thanks for all the advice. Bilsteins did the trick on my performance Fords in the 80's so I'd consider those albeit I accept they're not 'soft.' Had some issues with poly bushes on an old Lotus and went back to OEM. So I can appreciate that point also. Any suppliers you recommend for OEM shocks/springs/bushes or is it a main dealer job? Cheers, Will |
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3rd May 2015 9:34pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1431
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You could put a wanted add up? I'm sure a forum member might have some . I know in the garage I have a load of new genuine shock mount rubbers if that helps?
Site sponsors - Chris at CSK will probably have some Urban Truck are advertising new take offs, LRI also, |
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4th May 2015 6:44am |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5866
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I have decided I am going LR springs and shocks. Given I think the ones on now are LR ones, then they have lasted a fair while. So it will be HD on the front and standard springs on the rear. 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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4th May 2015 5:27pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5863  
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Along similar lines, I was under my 110 over the weekend and found that it had ARBs fitted, front and rear. They look to be OE, although I wasn't aware my spec (110SW, 2011, 2.2, basic) warranted such an upgrade. No idea if they're there because of the model year, the fact it might be different base spec in France or if the original owner ordered them. I did wonder why it handled better than 110s of Forces vintage
Anyway, background done, the question is if I go for a spring/sussies upgrade (thinking Bilstein B6 with -1" progressive spring) whether this OE ARB is up to the job and not worth the hassle of replacing. Any thoughts/opinions much appreciated... Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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4th May 2015 6:07pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1431
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GRENADIER - Admittedly mines a 90 but I run stock springs and standard anti roll bars with Bilsteins and I think its about right. I did look at going the uprated route, but at £200+, it seem pointless. It feels like a go cart anyway
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4th May 2015 6:31pm |
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