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| landybehr Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: -D- Posts: 173  |
Hi,
it looks like the water sensor, which the TD5 have attached to the fuel filter, is not present on the Puma. AFAIK that sensor often spelled trouble, or gave false alarms ? Or is the fuel too good here? Or is the Puma not supposed to be used where water in fuel is a problem ? Could water, trapped in the fuel filter between the filter-service-intervals be a problem in winter when it freezes ? I came across that thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defen...rap-2.html They have attached a plastic bowl to under the standard Puma-Fuel filter which makes inspection easy. OTOH you ´have´ to inspect it then to give it some use. A nice addition would be the TD5 sensor (in case one would get the correct harness-plug and the wiring right) - so you get a warning light and then have the chance to look at the bowl to be sure. But there probably isn´t enough space to fit the bowl and the sensor. (pics below) Anyway, I still wonder what´s the reason behind omitting any means of making the driver aware there´s some water.  Click image to enlarge
sensor TD5 WKW5000060 - pic from Allmake Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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5th May 2013 12:14pm |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231  
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does that water collection bowl fit directly to the standard Defender Fuel filter?
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8th May 2013 8:15am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2632 
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Marius, I don't think so, you need another one -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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8th May 2013 10:52am |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231
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45 pounds gets you two of those water catchers including postage to SA. I'm thinking about it.......might wait till the end of the year - thats when my waranty expires
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8th May 2013 11:27am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17327  
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According to the poster on the AULRO forum - who is actually our own Defender2 superhero Lorryman100
 - the sedimentor bowl WILL fit directly onto a standard Puma filter.
See here |
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8th May 2013 11:34am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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It does fit on the Land Rover filter- but I am sure it will be in the other thread that you need to relocate the filter to prevent the radius arm hitting it.
You can either manufacture one yourself or as I did pay £30 for a Gwyn Lewis one which does the job. You also need to adjust the shape of the bottom of the fuel filter guard. Here is mine after 200 litres of fuel (3 fills). Click image to enlarge You just can beat Cyprus fuel stations!!!...... But then again I can't complain at £1.10 a litre. Glyn  :sheep:
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8th May 2013 5:16pm |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231
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Glyn
can you send me a link to the (Gwyn Lewis) plate you talked about |
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9th May 2013 5:32am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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Hi,
It doesn't seem to be a separate item on his website- he tends to sell them as part of the 'Challenge' suspension kit. Here is the link to the item in his ebay shop: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Td5-Puma-110-130...2a13e3ccac Might be an idea to email him- maybe even sort out a group buy if people want to do the fuel bowl modification. Glyn  |
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9th May 2013 5:44am |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231
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how easy is it to get that gunk and water out of the bowl?
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9th May 2013 6:27am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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Park on a slope (I just put the front wheels on the sommers lift) and then loosen off the tap and it just flows out (Have emptied twice since fitting).
I am sure I could have positioned it so that the tap was at the bottom of the bowl rather the top, but it was my first attempt and have been a bit busy since to get around to re-adjusting. Glyn |
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9th May 2013 6:48am |
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| landybehr Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: -D- Posts: 173 |
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How does the filter rest in the wheelarch after the G-L relocation kit is installed ? ´cause - the relocation plate that´s in the austr.forum´s link looks like this: Click image to enlarge It´s straightforward to see what it does - i.e. nothing more than moving the fixing points up by 25mm. and the G-L plate like this:
in this case I cannot quite understand which drilled holes go where on the Chassis. Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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9th May 2013 8:48am |
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| landybehr Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: -D- Posts: 173 |
The picture from the austr. Forum (browse through the link in the first posting here) shows a original Fuel Filter, with printed-on LR-logo. To this the bowl is attached.  proof enough for me to try  |
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9th May 2013 8:51am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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It moves the filter forward, up and out (the spacer washers move it away from the chassis). I have modified the picture of the Gwyn Lewis:
I guess if you can make a plate at home that is the ideal answer- I got this one for the simple fact it is as cheap as the materials would cost and it is galvanised and a guaranteed easy install. It it were more expensive I would have probably just made one. Glyn :sheep:
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9th May 2013 11:01am |
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| landybehr Member Since: 17 Apr 2013 Location: -D- Posts: 173 |
errr ... but then the GwynLewis-Plate moves it forward but only a couple of mm´s up.
Doesn´t that still spell trouble when the radius(trailing) arm is raised upwards at axle-twisters ? Seems resp. the homepage says like his plate is designed to move the filter away from the shock mounting. But not upwards as he probably hasn´t had got in mind to gain space for a filter bowl. Anyway´s the plate from TimNZ is easy to reproduce if I could find a sheet of scale/plotting paper with millimeter-scale on it to mark where a centre punch will have to hit the steel. |
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9th May 2013 3:06pm |
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