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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298   
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I think the big question is whether it's going to be a 2.4. or 2.2 (refer to oil pump issues and issues related to dpf).
in terms of the running gear I think it's fair to say they're pretty damn good assuming they're alright from the outset. The obvious stuff to look for is clutches, output extension shafts and perhaps the 2 pins diffs over the 4 pin variety.....but what do I know - hopefully someone else will be able to provide a more educated rely. 
good luck and if depreciation comes into the equation then turn the other way when it come to the shogun  |
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15th Mar 2015 9:11am |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945 
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I had a new 2007 doublecab puma 1st gear is totally useless although it is quieter dash is good . It still beggars belief why they put a FORD Transit engine in a Land Rover , I had it for a year and went back to TD5
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15th Mar 2015 9:33am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298
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never had a td5 but can't understand why you don't feel that the tdci is suitable?
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15th Mar 2015 9:36am |
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| ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945
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I've had 7 defenders. I'm sorry it just does not appeal as a true Land Rover
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15th Mar 2015 9:38am |
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| pob1968 Member Since: 20 Apr 2014 Location: uk Posts: 239 |
I can remember when the TD5 came out in 1999 everyone was saying new fangled electronics give me a 300 tdi all the time, TD5's are rubbish. We are now 16 years on and look where we are at. I have had 3 TD5'S and a 2.4 and a 2.2 and the
Pumas are far nicer to drive, especially as far as 6th gear and NVH is concerned. People don't like change. 110 Hardtop |
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15th Mar 2015 10:09am |
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| Skeggy 90 Member Since: 07 Oct 2013 Location: Skeg Vegas Posts: 233 
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1st gear is low, but handy if you have a big trailer on the back. I much prefer the Puma Defenders over the TD5. I am not a fan of Particulate Filters as I have had problems with them in the past. 90 300 TDI SW (sold)
130 TD5 Utility (Foley SV) (sold) 110 TD5 Hardtop (sold) 110 TDCI Utility (sold) 1st Edition Range Rover Sport Supercharged Velar P380 HSE Discovery 1 V8 auto Puma 130 Double Cab (sold) R35 GTR Defender 110 300 TDI CSW (sold) 2010 110 XS Utility |
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15th Mar 2015 11:16am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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'Appalling Reliability' is a matter of perception. As with everything you get good and bad and on forums you will only get doom and gloom invariably. Mine has given me good reliable service and at nearly 40k I am still on all the original running gear. I do not offroad but am quite heavy footed nevertheless treated with respect I see no reason why my standard of serviceability won't continue. The Ford Transit engine after all is well proven and like the Land Rover itself has a strong and long heritage and quite a following in its own right. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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15th Mar 2015 11:45am |
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| chipmunk Member Since: 10 May 2012 Location: Kelso Posts: 264 
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The thread I read wasn't on here, the guy had run lots of Transits as well as Defenders. I was sceptical about Td5 until I got one. Apart from injector trouble it was great. I'm Just after opinions and am aware of differing experiences etc, just beginning my researches. Just love the Defender shape, image etc etc etc.
thank you all. Wish I hadn't sold, but circumstances dictated. |
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15th Mar 2015 1:46pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I've had them all several times over and find the current 2.2 a pleasant vehicle. Would I go back to a TD5 - not as a frontline vehicle considering the youngest are getting on for 8 years old now, same theory applies to the 300Tdi etc etc. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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16th Mar 2015 7:21pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507 
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Like Steve, i've owned every engine version except 200 tdi [Jumped straight from TD to 300tdi]
The puma is without doubt the nicest 'everyday' drive' out of all I've owned  As a road going Landie it takes some beating ....
Not the greatest off road [Can't beat a TDI] but still bloody good Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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16th Mar 2015 7:47pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2751
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My pumas been average reliability wise I'd say, not great but certainly not terrible.
Covered 75k miles now and had: -new clutch -new front diff -new fuel pump That's about it really save a few EGR issues and a few oil seal leaks. Probably no better or worse than any other defender? The gear change is the biggest letdown I'd say, but I can cruise happily at 85+ and it keeps up with most modern traffic. AC is brilliant to have and the new dash is a lot better. A lot quieter than the old ones for sure. I'm very happy and wouldn't consider anything older now, having owned a 200tdi and driven in td5s. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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16th Mar 2015 8:01pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2394 
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Driven all sorts of defenders from mon turbo to 2.5td, v8,tdi to td5 that was breathed on
Id say my current 2.4 is best ever defender for daily use! 6th gear and short throw a boon! Love the heater too lol 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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16th Mar 2015 9:12pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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No problems here with 89000 miles on a 2.4 real nice drive, no real issues to date......
Saying that it will probably blow up tomorrow now!  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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16th Mar 2015 9:35pm |
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| martinfiattech Member Since: 13 Nov 2013 Location: leicester Posts: 422
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Had a series 3, Two of them, a 1987. 90 diesel. Now on to a 2011 Puma.
It`s dry, nice and warm in side, goes well. Had a few issues under warranty now had it 18 months. It`s a keeper. Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires. |
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17th Mar 2015 9:56am |
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