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Supacat



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Top Ten Most Stolen & Recovered 2014
Spare a thought for the driver's of the other model in te Land Rover stable - 3 of the top 7:

1. BMW X5

2. Mercedes C Class

3. Range Rover Sport

4. Mercedes Benz E Class

5. Land Rover Discovery

6. BMW M3

7. Range Rover Vogue

8. Audi RS4

9. Mercedes Benz ML

10. Mercedes Benz C63

I don't think it's adjusted for volume of sales, so maybe we aren't that safe...
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'Most Stolen and Recovered'

Surely most people with Defenders already know we are far away from 'safe?'

I wonder what contributed to the 'Most Recovered' bit? Tracking device? Abandonment? Tip Off Raids? Be better if it was a bit more detailed perhaps? Can you post the link?

Here's an almost identical list, figures from Tracker based on cars fitted with a tracker device giving details of the most stolen and recovered from 2012.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/pictur...-cars.html

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I should have posted the link - sorry but I don't know where I got it from now - so makes the info pretty useless Embarassed
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No worries the link I posted had almost the very same vehicles albeit in a different order. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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K9F wrote:
'Most Stolen and Recovered'

Surely most people with Defenders already know we are far away from 'safe?'

I wonder what contributed to the 'Most Recovered' bit? Tracking device? Abandonment? Tip Off Raids? Be better if it was a bit more detailed perhaps? Can you post the link?

Here's an almost identical list, figures from Tracker based on cars fitted with a tracker device giving details of the most stolen and recovered from 2012.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/pictur...-cars.html

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Given the selection is almost entirely brands where owners would make the effort to fit tracker, it does make you wonder at the 'potential' benefits of having one fitted. Arguably the best data would be for example (my numbers):

700 E class Mercs stolen
350 Recovered
307 of the Recovered vehicles had tracker
1 in 3 stolen E Class Mercs were fitted with tracker
Tracker accounted for the actual recovery of 298 of 307 Mercs
Etc etc

But Tracker probably wouldn't release that in case the data proved you had just as high a chance of recovery without one as with, unless the stats were wholly in Tracker's favour, I.e. 80, 90, 95% recovery... Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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For the relative small outlay it's a 'no brainer' with reported Defender theft/attempts of theft. Irrespective of whether the data is in Tracker's favour or not you still obviously have a much higher percentage of recovery 'with' rather than 'without.' Also with a Thatcham approved one you get an insurance discount with some providers too.

Grenadier wrote:
But Tracker probably wouldn't release that in case the data proved you had just as high a chance of recovery without one as with, unless the stats were wholly in Tracker's favour, I.e. 80, 90, 95% recovery...


True.....Here are some figures......

"Indeed 95 per cent of stolen cars fitted with Tracker are returned to their owners and 86 percent of these are recovered within 24 hours."

From this posted November 2014

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Vehicle-tr...story.html

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looking at the news in my inbox this morning, it looks like it was a story from research by vehicle recovery service Tracker.
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Most likely....If you have a good 'track record' (excuse the pun) and can provide an excellent service, why not sing it from the rooftops and get some good free publicity?

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Only one problem is most people i Know wouldnt want a car back thats been stolen Sad

I for one would hope never to see it again if some low life had been driving it for a day or two.
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I would! Many of the 'extras' I have sourced are either no longer available or were damn hard to source in the first place. Everything in life is on loan but this is a loaner I would rather retain for a while longer. It also depends on the circumstances surrounding the theft too, if it was lifted to be broken for spares and recovered intact or perhaps stolen for a ram raid or 'ragged rotten' it would be a different story.

Just to state "I wouldn't want it back if it was stolen" doesn't really make much sense to me. Fitting a tracker does! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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steve E wrote:
I for one would hope never to see it again if some low life had been driving it for a day or two.


has your vehicle never been into a main dealer for a service or warranty work then? Whistle
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I understand all points of view on the topic of wanting a stolen car back or not.
I do take security of my Defender very seriously indeed and it is always locked away at night.
I've sold cars in the past after being broken into as didn't feel the same about them afterwards.

It's just how I feel about having a car back that has been taken by someone I'd rather not have been in my car.
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but couldn't resist the comment...
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Supacat wrote:
steve E wrote:
I for one would hope never to see it again if some low life had been driving it for a day or two.


has your vehicle never been into a main dealer for a service or warranty work then? Whistle


Lol Thumbs Up 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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steve E wrote:
Only one problem is most people i Know wouldnt want a car back thats been stolen Sad

I for one would hope never to see it again if some low life had been driving it for a day or two.


I would like to get it back with the lowlife still in it..... Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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